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Privacy advocates got access to Locate X, a phone tracking tool which multiple U.S. agencies have bought access to, and showed me and other journalists exactly what it was capable of. Tracking a phone from one state to another to an abortion clinic. Multiple places of worship. A school. Following a likely juror to a residence. And all of this tracking is possible without a warrant, and instead just a few clicks of a mouse.

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[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago (4 children)

How is this not a warrantless search?

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It is, but the USA hasn't cared since Snowden.

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[–] Negligent_Embassy@links.hackliberty.org 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

That's the issue with the patriot act, they've been allowed to do warrantless searches for a long time now.

FISA court if they run into any friction

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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 275 points 4 days ago (11 children)

This should be illegal. There is absolutely no good reason this should be available to anybody. It should also be considered unconstitutional; if one of those dots is a person, whether you directly know who the person is or not, it should violate the right to privacy and the right of illegal search and seizure — no questions asked.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 110 points 4 days ago (3 children)

You are right. And you're fighting against the credit reporting agencies and google, facebook, apple, and all car manufacturers for privacy rights.

This is the result of jurists and legislators who don't understand a single goddamned thing about computers in 2024. For fuck's sake it's been thirty goddamned years since this was obviously going to happen. Take a class, you bastards! Those of you who aren't Heritage Foundation fascists.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 57 points 4 days ago (6 children)

It's not getting better either: https://futurism.com/the-byte/gen-z-kids-file-systems

There seems to have been a short window of maybe two decades in the 80s and 90s when computers and the Internet were becoming household staples where almost everyone who grew up in that time period knows what's up, while everyone who didn't is way more ignorant. The older folks are lost because they didn't grow up with computers. The younger kids are lost because they were born into a world of advanced UIs, "plug and play", and software that heavily obfuscates the nitty gritty details of how it works.

Being forced to run command line installers, edit config.sys files, set DIP switches correctly for your front side bus speed and messing with IRQ settings for your sound card and such just to play a computer game will definitely teach you a thing or two. My family's PC came with not only an instruction manual, but an entire language reference for the built in GW-Basic interpreter. Nowadays, you get a laptop with a small pamphlet showing you how to plug it in and turn it on.

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[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Search and seizure, the Fourth Amendment, only applies to State actors. The only exception is when a private entity is acting as an agent of the government, such as in the case of private prisons.

Congress needs to pass consumer protection laws aimed at privacy in the digital age. They haven't updated this sort of thing I believe since 1996. It used to be legal for adult video stores to disclose the tapes people rented, but Congress passed a privacy law forbidding it when some journalists disclosed some of their rentals. The scandal had some cool name. I forgot what.

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[–] LunarVoyager@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Your survival kit:

Empty GrapheneOS Pixel 6a bought with cash that isn't your daily driver (last Pixel with snapdragon chip that allows IMEI changes)

JMP.chat

Silent.link

Sensors off (developer options)

Bluetooth/WiFi/NFC off

Disable 2G/enable LTE only mode

Offline maps/airplane mode when navigating/at destination/anywhere near your residence or other frequently visited places that could be associated with you. When changing the IMEI/IMSI combo make sure you go to another location first so that you break the link

Infrared AND polarized license plate covers. Remove any and all bumper stickers and other accessories that can be fingerprinted

IR blocking lens sunglasses for facial recognition

And of course, it wouldn't be complete without the tor browser over a trustworthy VPN

So yeah fuck the police

Edit: I forgot to mention that if you drive a car that is mid-2010s or newer you may have to do some digging to disable telemetry, satellite, cellular and any other dystoptian fuckery they install these days.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

...Or just not taking a phone and taking public transport instead of a car.

[–] LunarVoyager@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

But that's so boringgg. And in the U.S public transport is pretty limited.

[–] Fredy1422@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

how does one change your imei number using a pixel 6a, with a rooted phone with magisk.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 97 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Start tracking politician phones. Oh look who paid a visit to the lobbyist house this week! That shit will get shut down real quick.

[–] bamfic@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago
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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 109 points 4 days ago (14 children)

It drives me nuts how our economic system is making not having a cell phone increasingly difficult. Many necessary things won't even work on a tablet. The smartphone is the most amazing futuristic device I dreamed about that has evolved into a distopian nightmare.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 89 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

"I got nothing to hide. I'm a boring person" dumbass mfers

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 54 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I got nothing to hide.

I'm willing to bet that they have curtains on their bedroom window...

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I'm willing to bet they lock their doors

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[–] Sabata11792@ani.social 38 points 4 days ago

"Got nothing to hide" - Man wearing pants

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[–] Spitzspot@lemmings.world 107 points 4 days ago (14 children)

Time to start casually walking by clinics en masse.

[–] TheHobbyist@lemmy.zip 60 points 4 days ago (7 children)

That does not sound like a viable long term solution to me.

[–] Spitzspot@lemmings.world 31 points 4 days ago

It is something we can do right now though. Even the youth who can't vote yet can participate.

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[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 57 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is nothing new. Did we already forget about the Snowden leaks?

[–] actually@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The leaks that 2% of the population got very excited about for a while, but try not to think much about? The leaks judged by many on the reputation of an obscure man living in Russia? Those leaks?

I trust my government and not things only nerds understand. Also they sound weird and made up and very scary ( said most of the people)

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[–] communism@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Article link not requiring you to sign up: https://archive.ph/Th1Sq

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[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 12 points 3 days ago

Time for an alternative means of communication

[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 4 days ago (22 children)

a device that constantly connects to antennas all over the place, is used to track your location.

who would have thought?

if you dont wanna get tracked - dont bring your phone.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (24 children)

Or, you know, let the gov work for you, not against you, & fully expect people to get jailed if they track you.

It's a matter of perspective what the minimum standard should be.

Especially when a personal device like a phone is basically necessary for a normal life and even public services.

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[–] wrekone@lemmyf.uk 33 points 4 days ago (5 children)

If you don't want to be tracked illegally, don't bring your phone.

If you don't want any to be tracked legally, write/call/tweet/visit your representatives.

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[–] egrets@lemmy.world 50 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The EFF have a bit more general information about location data brokers. Well worth a read.

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[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 3 days ago

This is not new and it has previously been used against anti-abortion activists, tracking locations and even being used to record religious confessions. People on both sides of the abortion issue can oppose this type of monitoring.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago (11 children)

As people get ready to vote here in the US, one issue I haven't even heard brought up is the lack of privacy regulations in the US. Do most people not care if the person they're voting for is fine with every corporation selling and sharing personal data?

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago

privacy is important, kids

[–] capital@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago (23 children)

Don't bring your phone.

Get a burner and set up call forwarding.

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 26 points 4 days ago (15 children)

burner goes from your house, to abortion clinic, to your office, back to your house

Hmm, must be someone else, I don't recognize this number

-The Government

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[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Archive: https://archive.ph/bSrZR

tl;dr: It's basically a MAID attack, along with the usual suspects of social media, navigation, and weather apps.

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[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Who else are they selling this too?

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