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nuclear power produces long-lived radioactive waste, which needs to be stored securely. Nuclear fuels, such as the element uranium (which needs to be mined), are finite, so the technology is not considered renewable. Renewable sources of energy, such as solar and wind power suffer from “intermittency”, meaning they do not consistently produce energy at all hours of the day.

fusion technologies have yet to produce sustained net energy output (more energy than is put in to run the reactor), let alone produce energy at the scale required to meet the growing demands of AI. Fusion will require many more technological developments before it can fulfil its promise of delivering power to the grid.

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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 1 points 18 minutes ago (1 children)

I don't see why we are hating on the waste like this. Yes it's very dangerous waste, but the amount is quite small, and if we store them safely, as shown in Tom Scott's video on Nuclear Storage in Finland, it's actually a very good solution for the time being.

[–] cocomutative_diagram@infosec.pub 1 points 2 minutes ago

I think a even better solution might be to not unnecessarily waste energies 😉

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago

Fusion will likely happen in this century. Fission is a great temporary power source to get us there alongside renewables.

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago

The real solution is the thing that the fossil fuel companies have been buying up the tech for and burying it for decades...batteries.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 24 points 7 hours ago

Tech bosses think nuclear fusion is the solution

No they don't; this is literally the first thing I've ever read claiming that. Tech bosses are perfect happy to power AI with nuclear fission and don't give the slightest fuck about the waste.

(As well they shouldn't, TBH, since it really ought to get reprocessed anyway. But that doesn't excuse them for wanting to waste the power on bullshit.)

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 36 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

They're missing a fusion reactor capable of positive energy output?

"Tech bosses think warp drive might get us to Mars faster..."

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I bet they think that wormholes are even better

[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Renewable sources of energy, such as solar and wind power suffer from “intermittency”, meaning they do not consistently produce energy at all hours of the day.

If only we had some way of storing energy for use later. Oh well.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 49 minutes ago

We do not currently have the battery tech to have a fully renewables-powered grid where batteries are used for the regular dips in production wind and solar have.

We likely won't have infrastructure like that in place for decades.

[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

Lithium batteries and their associated wastes and byproducts are an ecological catastrophe though in fairness

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

So maybe they will invest to get it further. It's not a 9 women can make a baby in a month .. but sufficient funding for next gen nuclear and fusion will help progress.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 16 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Theyre missing the fact that cold fusion doesn't (currently) exist? (haven't read the article)?

[–] PushButton@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

But still right on though

[–] mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago

Fusion. What they’re missing is fusion powe

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Maybe AI can help us break the fusion hurdles. Oh. It's still telling people to eat rocks, just used to create waifu porn and as a mass spy application? Nothing else, really? Well shit.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I know you're being reflexively downvoted by who hate everything AI, but this is the sort of thing AI should be most useful for, which is finding patterns within large problem spaces with many variables.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 47 minutes ago

They're mocking AI, why would they be being downvoted by people who reflexively hate anything AI?

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Nothing else? Please do not speak for other people if you can not grasp what others do with this tool.

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

What do others do with this tool?

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Sorry, I didn't mean to leave out the bestiality porn creation as well. That was unintentional on my part.