Honestly I think I’m more dissuaded because of who Elon has become.
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Knowing he can swoop into Tesla and start making decisions that over rule the experts that work there like he did at twitter should scare people who can't afford to just buy another EV if it happens to Tesla.
"If" it happens to Tesla? Pretty sure the over promising if FSD and the poor build quality have always been Tesla things driven by Musk. Once competition gears up I really hope Tesla improves. It's actually a fun car to drive just make sure you get one that was built properly and don't bother with FSD.
Look at twitter though, I'm not convinced Tesla cant get much much worse and I think its directly related to how much time Musk spends doing his job there.
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There are quality issues but the success of Tesla was mostly due to the hype created by Elon, now that most of the people that care the most about the environment dislike Elon of course their sales drop
The success was because for a solid 5 years, the Model 3/Y were the only widely available long range EVs.
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I was drawn to them when they were new and different and it seemed like some of the problems were just growing pains. Now it seems like Tesla started as a great idea and quickly got steamrolled into a clown show like everything else Elon touches. At one point I wanted a model 3 but now I'd rather have a gas electric hybrid like a Prius or something and an ebike or scooter.
You mean added ad content that's not removable or blockable, charging a subscription for no new features, and blocking users he doesn't like.
Yeah I'm not buying a car from a megalomaniac that might flip the switch for Tesla over 6 months to become his new biggest ad/subscription machine.
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Who in their right mind, after seeing Elon Musk destroy Twitter at the behest of the Saudis, all while supporting antidemocratic Fascists from every corner of the globe, buy one of his Fascistmobiles and fly his Fascist flag?
I love Teslas and hate Elon. Have family members who feel the same and own Teslas. The cars are amazing, fun, cool, and made by people who aren't Elon. He will never make me hate Tesla. Also, friendly reminder that Ford is heavily responsible for EVs not existing decades sooner, Toyota donated more than any company to Jan6 Republicans, and the average car CEO is a piece of shit. Elon is just an outspoken piece of shit.
Or work at any of his companies. Would like to hear from lemmy users working for him.
A lot of folks work in those factories that have no idea about Elon, other than that he’s rich. So many folks don’t bother to stay informed.
I really doubt this for factories in the US. Whether you follow celebrity news or not, Musk's name is all over the place for one reason or another. US workers absolutely know what's going on.
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More thinking all those vps, managers, hr, engineers, customer service, sales, marketing etc. they obviously are well informed and choose to stay.
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teslas are pretty cool cars. lots of fun features that make them really feel unique.
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It’s falling because the cars are garbage. Slightly cutting the prices doesn’t make them any less garbage. You could get an EV from a reputable brand for much less.
I don't know why Lemmy hates Tesla so much. Hate Elon, sure, he's probably behind the crazy quotas leading to poor build quality and definitely behind overselling FSD, but if it wasn't for Tesla we would still have no viable EVs. I hope competition makes a good one soon but right now Tesla is the best EV with the best charging network. Lots of people are driving them now.
They're hellishly expensive cars. They harvest data, and if you opt out your car may become useless. They exaggerate the car statistics, like driving range. The build quality is frequently poor, with visible panel gaps (that cheap-arse Dacias don't even have), rear bumpers that fall off due to rainfall, they are prone to rust, and the FSD despite clearly not being "fully self driving" or even road safe is available as an extra subscription, that people actively pay for and make use of making the roads less safe.
That's just the tip of the iceberg as well. Like how replacing the battery costs as much as buying a new car. Or the fact that the already shitty battery life gets even worse when it gets cold, leading to people getting stuck on the motorway in the winter, forcing them to get a taxi and abandon their car.
Perhaps Tesla started off well back in the late 00s, but Musk's been doing nothing but bullshit since the moment he got his grubby little hands on the thing. There are awful stories coming from the factories involving racism, frequent injuries (the factory in Germany is laughable, and it's shocking it hasn't been shut down), and really worrying things have been said even about the software its running on.
Then there's all the weird-ass design decisions, like replacing the steering wheel with a yoke, without adding servo steering meaning it's just a malshaped steering wheel. They've also paved the way for bullshit capacitive touch areas rather than buttons, and tacked actual important functions like turn signals on them.
If you accidentally caress the fart button and make the bloody thing do lmao memez hilariouz farting, no one gets injured. Miscommunicating your intention in traffic could lead to deaths.
It's a bad company, and they're bad cars.
It's a decent enough company owned by a sack of shit, and the cars are pretty good.
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I’m in the market for a new car. Probably an electric. Sometime in the next 3-5 years. I’ll be fucked if I even consider one of this douchecunt’s cars.
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In 2021, I almost bought a Tesla, but needed a car quickly and they had a long wait. I’d still consider it but it has now become clear that Elon Musk sucks, so I’ll never buy one.
My next car will be an EV from literally any other company.
Yeah in thinking about a Bolt if my Aptera order doesn't come through.
Fwiw my Bolt has been rock solid so far. I'm getting about 240 miles per charge (to 90%, not full). It's a city driver though, I wouldn't plan to take it on a road trip
I'd avoid VW too, honestly. They were had to build out Electrify America because they cheated with emissions. They clearly do not give a shit about it and their charging stations are continually rated the worst.
Yeah, used to own VWs. They are shit cars and that’s why I stopped buying them, but the emissions cheating was also a nail in the coffin for my consideration of them.
You can't really get away from Tesla chargers though if you need to do a road trip. Happily, many other brands are adopting the standard so I think soon anyone can use them.
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Too expensive to run proper power to my garage to go electric. My main panel is in the basement on the other side of my house.
I also had this problem. I was lucky enough to have an electric dryer plug near the garage, and got a "splitvolt" brand switching box, which is awesome.
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