Obligatory: fuck hexbear and fuck Lemmygrad.
this post was submitted on 17 Sep 2023
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I am genuinely confused about how Hexbearians thought being dicks on the internet was going to change any hearts and/or minds
They're simply trolls
The Shittier 4chan™️
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I sort of look at them as amusement. It's not like what they want will happen In our lifetimes (or ever probably). I don't necessarily get why everyone hates them, just try looking at them as funny content lol
You must not have seen the amount of genocide denial they do, or the amount of simping for dictators.
I genuinely don't understand why the admins are dragging ass and not just defederating from them already. They provide nothing of value, just spam and harassment.
Because if memory serves both Lemmy.ml and Lemmygrad share some admins with each other
And with Lemmygrad and Hexbear loving each other: federation is going to stay a thing over here
One of the things I love about the instance I'm on is that we're defederated from Hexbear, it's pretty nice NGL
Because you're on a tankie instance. Go to sopuli.xyz; the admin banned all extremists left and right so it's smooth sailing.
Because it worked on them. At some point someone was a smug, obnoxious cunt to them online and they were like "Wow, thanks, I guess I'm a communist now!"
Me but with Vaush and he supports a more democratic and less genocidal version of communism.
Well I'm glad Hexbears have stopped spamming pig testicles at least. But. First impressions mean a lot and they did not make a good one.
If you were more offended by PPBs than what the people we posted that in response to were saying then you deserved to be offended 
You sent it to everyone who said anything you didn't like day one of you federating. Lemmy.ml news and politics communities basically just became a toxic waste dump for a month and a half because hexbears thought people weren't left enough, or thinking that Russia invading Ukraine was bad.
Then it was already a toxic waste dump. You just agreed with the opinions we were pushing back on
By arguing in bad faith and throwing the baby with the bathwater.
Your principled critic
Our bad faith argument
you don't agree with us. Don't pretend like it's anything different.
I don't see how the baby bieng thrown out cliche applies. We see libs parroting bullshit we reply, there's no baby to be thrown out when it comes to libs and their propaganda or brainworms
Don't know your specific beliefs but no in all liklihood I don't agree with you. I don't think I even remotely preteneded that. We probably agree on some things but I expect our over arching political beliefs are going to be at odds.
Just for my knowledge is a liberal anyone who isn't a Marxist-leninist? Are Fascists Liberals under your definition?
No, just liberals are liberals. People who ultimately support capital and liberal democracy. You don't have to be ML. Hexbear is non-sectarian, but we expect internationalist, anti-capitalist, and supportive of intersectional struggle from people on the actual left.
Fascism is basically capital abandoning liberalism to defend itself from socialism. So, fascists arent liberals. But sometimes when they get scratched the fash does comes out. Ask the average lib about the homeless, or Roma for european libs.
If you care more about how we agrue than what we're argueing about then you don't agree with us on anything you wouldn't abandon in a heartbeat
Oh, there's gonna be some opinions in this thread.
All I've seen from Hexbear is class consciousness shit, but everybody else has made it the key point of their online existence to rage on them and do all the garbage they accuse hexbear of. 🤷
Sorry y'all can't adequately explain why giving every cent of the economy to three people is a good thing.
EDIT: I hear what people are saying but it sounds like, from my limited experience of looking at posts pushed to me from there, that people are using the actions of a few to discredit the beliefs and opinions of everyone they disagree with.
EDIT2: LOL @ the people calling me names then blocking me for disagreeing with them. Thought that was Hexbear did, not you EnLigHtEnEd TyPeS JFC 😂
You've only seen class consciouss shit? I'm very sorry you haven't seen more of our sick emojis
emoji spam
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I do hate these, are they supposed to take up a whole screens worth of blank space each or is that my Connect app being weird about it.
It's unintended and it's why I've been hesitant to post emojis on other instances. It's why I used spoiler tags.
They're not supposed to be so big. They look more normal sized on Hexbear. I'm told some Lemmy devs are working on a fix for it soon.
It was the calls to murder anyone who supports a democratic candidate, with the justification that cops have killed homeless people that turned me off.
that and the stupid image emojis
You have sources on that first bit lol? I’m not sure what you’re talking about.
Unless you’re meaning jokes about fascist voters falling down a manhole or something?
Always fun to see accusations with no link and speculate on what actually happened.
So many tantalizingly omitted details!
Death to America
For me it was the brain dead disgusting coments they make about Ukraine and the war.
The ones about how America will fight Russia to the last Ukrainian?
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The issue with Hexbear is that their users tend to talk in a very demeaning and insulting manner. About half of the popular posts on Hexbear are about making fun of people or communities. Their political views are less of an issue; it's more about their toxic behaviour.
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And who exactly do we talk in a demeaning and insulting manner to? What is that the people we respond to that way say?
No one who posts this kind of civilty or optics concerns about our behaviour ever mentions that.
If you're more offended by our responses than the things we push back against you deserve to be offended
their users tend to talk in a very demeaning and insulting manner.
About half of the popular posts on Hexbear are about making fun of people or communities
it's more about their toxic behaviour
This can be interpreted as bad faith if you don't mention towards whom this behavior is directed at.
Their political views are less of an issue
Thank you for admitting it's about the optics (which is not a concern for us)
I mean, that's most people inside the more mainstream American Overton window of mid right to far right, but nobody bats an eye at that because they're upholding the status quo. 🤷
Do you see instances who's main purpose is to represent "people inside the more mainstream American Overton window of mid right to far right" that are even nearly as popular as Hexbear?
If you're browsing all you frequently see posts from Hexbear users. I'm yet to come across a noticable amount of posts from users from an instance which represent the group you mentioned.
(I couldn't even name a single instance that fits that description, because if they exist, they're not nearly as active as Hexbear.)
Toxic people exist on all public instances. But on some they're more common than on others.
Yeah, it's called most of the internet. 🤷
What you're saying then is it's OK to stereotype users and bully them for their beliefs and opinions, then use any response other than quiet submission as proof that they're bad.
Cause all the posts I've seen from it is mundane, and the only times I've ever seen it's users act a fool is in response to everyone screeching at them for not adhering to popular opinion (usually with no coherent point other than "tankie bad durr" whatever a tankie is, I'm assuming a slur for leftists.)
Can I punch you then run around telling everyone what a violent cunt you are when you punch me back? Cause that's what it looks like to me, I've been getting alot of wild claims about hexbear but nobody has any point of reference to back it up though.
the symbol was making me think it was a cryptocurrency
Death to all communist trash
Follow your leader
interesting point,
now come this way
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