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[–] Abnorc@lemm.ee 3 points 26 minutes ago

I want a balloon full of uranium hexafluoride.

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 2 points 1 hour ago

Brought to you by big hydrogen.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 27 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Given its scarcity, helium should be more expensive, to the point where filling party balloons with it is decadent profligacy.

[–] el_abuelo@programming.dev 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I mean it is expensive, it's just the amount required for a balloon is insignificant and thus seems cheap.

As a diver who uses helium I can tell you it is, compared to air, so much more expensive they actually charge me for it (rather than just rolled into the cost of a dive) - to the sum of about $300 a dive - depending on depth.

[–] FeatherConstrictor@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

What is helium used for when diving?

[–] el_abuelo@programming.dev 16 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Reducing the amount of narcotic gases in your mix so you don't act like a drunk idiot when in a life threatening situation.

Those narcotic gases are nitrogen and oxygen (although there's only so little oxygen you can have....and also only so much!)

Edit: extra info: oxygen and nitrogen are narcotic at depth, nitrogen is better understood and so often we talk about nitrogen narcosis, which tends to start hitting people after about 30m, but each person reacts different and to different degrees at different deaths. I personally notice it at about 50m or so. If I was more relaxed while diving it'd probably hit me sooner.

[–] FeatherConstrictor@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] el_abuelo@programming.dev 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Most welcome! I can talk endlessly about diving so welcome the question.

I added an edit with some more information incase you're more curious.

[–] Highstronaught@feddit.uk 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Are there other gasses that could be used. E.g some of the noble gasses like argon or neon?

[–] el_abuelo@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

Ah very interesting, and yes theoretically I believe. Some people are experimenting with other gases due to the price and low availability of Helium.

Rebreathers are becoming a lot more accessible these days and so are making dives much cheaper, but they're still $20k so it takes a while to recoup the cost.

https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argox

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

why don't we just bring a shitload back from saturn or something

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Deepus@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

Dont you tell me what i can do!!

[–] PenisDuckCuck9001@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck! How am I going to refuel this fusion reactor I brought back from the future? You can't have shit these days.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

May I suggest food waste from someone's garbage can? I hear that works.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 16 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Just use hot air. Lots of that to go around.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I'm afraid it's already in use by politicians.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I could have sworn they were hot air generators

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

It's endlessly recycled.

[–] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 35 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

We should go back to filling them with hydrogen.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 27 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

What could go wrong?

I mean other than that...

[–] Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 hours ago

Oh the huge manatee!

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

The alternative is to use extremely limited quantities of gas crucial for MRIs, chip making, metallurgy, and a few other high tech applications. But hey, pretty balloons.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 53 minutes ago* (last edited 53 minutes ago)

When I was a kid, Dave Berry had a column where he made fun of the US Strategic Helium Reserve. This taught me an important lesson: when people make fun of what seems like government waste, 75% of the time it turns out to be really important. Not always, but you should look into it more.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

^(The^ ^store^ ^was^ ^just^ ^out^ ^of^ ^helium.)^

[–] RedEyeFlightControl@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Only a matter of time before they can't get any because we wasted such a limited resource on vanity instead of the pursuit of science.

[–] el_abuelo@programming.dev 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Perspective my dude. An insignificant small amount is spent on vanity.

I've used more helium on a single dive than I've ever used in balloons in my entire life.

[–] RedEyeFlightControl@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

At least you spent yours on something scientific in nature.

[–] el_abuelo@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

At a stretch perhaps, but it's more recreational - I liken it to going to visit a castle, or going on a safari.....just underwater!

[–] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 18 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Would make for more exciting birthday parties.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Am I missing a joke? Airships used hydrogen gas

[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Specific airships made by a specific country that had no access to helium...

[–] julysfire@lemmy.world 25 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

There will absolutely still be a customer that takes a balloon from behind the sign and asks for it to be filled up in the store.

[–] Beldarofremulak@lemmy.world 14 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

They will demand it or else poor Kayla'lin 'da Leeigh Lynn Lee's princess party will be ruined.

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I think you just summoned an Elder God.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago

"I̡̖̝͔̯͌̄̈́ ̧̙̮̈̈́H̥̫̭͈̖̐̆̒̂̓̾A̼͚̘̦̼͂͌̇͒̏̌͝Ṽ̡̡͙͙͌́̽Ȩ̮̝̪̞͖̍͆̋͋̄̒͝ͅ ̳̙͝R̥͕̱̠̱̈̈́͜I͎͒͌̋͗̈̑͜͝S̨͙̻͍̺̟̾Ẹ̳̖̖̼̥̊̓̆Ǹ̡̳͍̏͒͛̉̃̀,̳̅̋͑ ̡̡̠̗͈́͑̌A̡̧̛̦͛̅̎̄͒͂Ṅ̨͕͈͍͎͆̑̕D̻̑̾̔̊̉͊̚ͅ ̧̳̙̳͗̈́͊͊̓͝Ḭ̻̗̻̥̙͉̀̒̂͛̈́ ̢̡̯͖̩̻͍͛D̰͔͇͉̪̆E̛̝̻͇͚̼̤͗̊̑̀͋͜M͕̯̠͎̳͌͛͐͒̋͑Ä̹̺̥̤́̓̾̕N̝͎̓̓̆͋͐D͇̺̮̠̏͊̌͐̍̚͠.͓̼̰̈́͛̈̈͊.̺͎͖̰͔̻̇̂̉̈́̌.̢̮̣͖̳͖̜́͌ ̫̰̗͋P͔͗̑͆O̳͛͌̂̎̀Ṅ̦̣͖̭Ḭ̱̖̊̂Ė̛̠̺̭̓̉Ś̞͔͍̠̟͓̦̿̈́̆"

[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 5 hours ago

The Eldritch God of over eccentric suburban moms is somehow more terrifying than anything Lovecraft came up with.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 8 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

I really wonder what power plants will do with the helium once they get fusion working. Maybe a balloon business on the side isn't such a bad idea.

[–] subtext@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I mean too much Helium isn’t a problem. It’s one of the few (only?) elements that will just disappear if you don’t do anything with it.

It’s light enough that it rises to the very tip top of the earth’s atmosphere and is then stripped away by solar radiation. That’s why is a depleting natural resource, not because it’s burned or used or anything, but because it just escapes.

[–] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It’s one of the few (only?) elements that will just disappear if you don’t do anything with it.

** Lavoisier crying noises **

[–] subtext@lemmy.world 1 points 57 minutes ago

At the height of the French Revolution, he was charged with tax fraud and selling adulterated tobacco, and was guillotined despite appeals to spare his life in recognition of his contributions to science. A year and a half later, he was exonerated by the French government.

Goodness

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 hours ago

In a perfect world stick it in a secondary reactor and make lithium. But that's obviously even further off than hydrogen fusion.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

The amount of helium produced is truly miniscule, in the order of a few cubic centimeters. They'll just pump it into the ground somewhere, assuming we ever get fusion working

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

An MRI scanner in every home!

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It takes a lot to get those working and stay running. I am one of the guys that supplies it. Well over 100 liters to even start it.

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 2 points 39 minutes ago

Dayum. How often do they need refilling? With rebco magnets out there, surprised we're not using more ln2 instead.

Maybe just older machines?

[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Good thing I finally finished voice training and no longer need Helium to pass 👍

[–] clickyello@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

nice keming on that one