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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 307 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Yes, but corporations pay into the system in other ways. Take for example the time Duke Energy had a big coal ash spill into a river. They took the income resources they had and not only paid a fair fine price, cleaned up the...

Wait. No they didn't. They passed on all the costs to their customers. Fortunately those customers were able to use the free market and choose another provider...

Wait. No, they can't. Huh. That IS a freeloader.

[–] Ismay@programming.dev 50 points 1 month ago

Damn I hated you on those first lines πŸ˜‚

[–] no_im_doesnt@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh yes, I remember this. Duke assessed the river bed and determined that a cleanup could cause more damage and would be super expensive. So they did no cleanup AND increased rates.

[–] glitch1985@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

increased rates

You think that assessment was free? Think again pal.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

I was about to flame you up πŸ˜€πŸ˜‚

[–] slaveOne@reddthat.com 27 points 1 month ago

You had me going there for a minute

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

I hate you. Wait no I don't πŸ˜‚

[–] Painfinity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Climate Town, is this you??

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 8 points 1 month ago

Lol, no, but maybe I was channeling him. Great Youtuber.

Its funny how much owning a successful business sound exactly like being a lazy, work-shy layabout who does nothing while living off of other people's hard work.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 79 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Racism is either a symptom or a tool:

Those who cant make sense of their situation being unsatisfactory may fall prey to it to soothe themselves.

Those who hoard all of the worlds wealth use it to distract from that fact.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Worth noting that a lot of the people raging about immigrants don’t see themselves as racist.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have a quote that fits this situation well:

When youβ€˜re dead, you do not know you are dead. Its only painful and difficult for others. The same applies when you are stupid.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

It's not about inability to understand, mind, it's about unwillingness to understand.

There are plenty of people who have mental deficiencies who are well aware of that, and how much trouble they have understanding the world around them. But they at least try.

The same can not be said for those who are perfectly capable of understanding, yet simply choose not to.

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[–] DandomRude@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Posts like this are important, but unfortunately in vain, I'm afraid. Those who still don't understand it will never understand it. I think they don't want to. I don't get it.

[–] warbond@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd say it's still important to post and talk about, not for the people who know and don't care, but for the people who don't know and do care.

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[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Reading about The Bracero Program seems kind of wild in today's anti-immigrant US climate.

The Bracero Program (from the Spanish term bracero [bɾaˈse.ɾo], meaning "manual laborer" or "one who works using his arms") was a U.S. Government-sponsored program that imported Mexican farm and railroad workers into the United States between the years 1942 and 1964.

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[–] emerald@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I'd actually be willing to bet that we (the US taxpayer) paid those corporations for the privilege of their continued existence

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[–] Nurgus@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] Kaeru@slrpnk.net 19 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Stupid question: If undocumented, how are they verifiably paying anything close to this figure in taxes? Pls respond

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not all taxes are collected, much of what we pay in taxes is added on to the cost of things.

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[–] microphone900@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They can request and may be assigned an individual tax ID number (ITIN). Having an ITIN may allow them to open a bank account. It also makes it so they pay taxes which a surprising number want to do. Since they want to stay in the country, having a long history of paying taxes is a way to show you don't want to cause trouble and you just want to work. Hell, a lot of them probably know they got Al Capone on tax evasion and don't want to end up like him. Here's a report I just Googled, and possibly the source of the number which is an estimate.

On the other side is how much tax funding is used on them. Here's a report from the House of Representatives which states they use more in services (Medicare, WIC, sending kids to school, etc) than they pay. I can't speak to how accurate the report is considering the makeup and views publicly expressed by members of the committee. I'm personally leaning towards 'they don't, and can't, use as more than they contribute' because they're not eligible for many benefits.

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[–] sozesoze@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Damn, Sam Reichs father is really big on social media

[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He worked for multiple presidential administrations and was in the cabinet https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Reich

[–] sozesoze@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Yeah, that was just a stupid Dropout joke ^^

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[–] Mango@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Freeloaders are the people taking up dramatically more resources than the value one human can produce.

[–] Overshoot2648@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't think they care. I think they just say they are free loaders because what they really feel is hate towards people of other races and ethnicities, but they can't say it out load or often even admit it to themselves.

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[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trump is not a free-loader though!? And now that I've planted that thought... can you remind me why not exactly - asking for a friend? :-P

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well, he doesn't do work or create value.

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

The real reason your taxes are high is because of... the bears!

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