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[–] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The most annoying thing is that the peace accords back then where known to be derailed by the USA and UK, like it was 100% not a secret, absolutely public knowledge if you actually cared about the actual geopolitical region and were paying attention to what was going on outside general news media. Academics were saying the same as well.

The Western media utterly, and seemingly in conjunction decided to under report this to well, mostly to Americans. So your average Americans were kept in the dark of how instrumental they were in escalating this war. And painted anyone who stated actual reality as merely Putin puppets. The manipulation was strong since it seems to have worked wonders.

I fail to see how the USA and by extension the UK are any different when playing the disinformation and misinformation game. Everyone blames everyone else and claims they do not do any of it.

Nuland is just a war criminal but one that has the approval of the American military and political complex. I trust people have listensed to the leaked phone call from years ago where she cherry picks Ukrainian politicians to exalt into office? Go democracy.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Watched the whole interview. This person seem to still live up in the reagan anti-communist rhetoric. She reminds me of these teachers who vent their frustrations on kids and act authoritarian on them as to compensate the lack of something.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Watched the whole interview. This person seem to still live up in the reagan anti-communist rhetoric.

Nuland started her carrer under Bill Clinton.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

they started working before that and they are married to robert kagan

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Fair, though Kagan also left the GOP to endorse Hilary. One big incestuous murder family! Slay! 💅

[–] sweng@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Surprised pikachu What? Ukraine did not trust Russia to not attack them again, after being attacked by Russia?

Russia has a trust-problem. If they are serious about wanting peace they should work on it.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (33 children)

They are working on it by eliminating the fighting capacity of the AFU. At this point the only peace Ukraine will see is one where it unconditionally surrenders.

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[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

what does this reply have to do with the article or the admission contained therein besides having vaguely associated topic metadata tags, you bot?

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[–] EpicMuch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Who is Nuland? Haven’t heard of this guy before now

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago

Nuland is the architect of the 2014 coup in Ukraine

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Maybe you should... She's been a high ranking figure of the US foreign policy since the mid 90s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland

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