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- There is growing resentment across Southeast Asia against Chinese e-commerce firms.__

- Import tariffs can create tensions and hurt some local businesses.__

- Southeast Asian nations are also pulling out all the stops to welcome Chinese electric vehicle makers such as BYD and GWM, with subsidies and other incentives to set up manufacturing plants, due to growing trade deficits with China.__

Indonesia is Southeast Asia’s largest e-commerce market, accounting for nearly half the gross merchandise value of the eight top platforms, according to advisory firm Momentum Works. The value of e-commerce sales in Indonesia hit $77 billion last year, authorities say.

Chinese imports had enjoyed low, or zero, duties in Indonesia under regional trade agreements. But as sales of cheap clothes, shoes, and electronics surged online, the government stepped in to protect local businesses. President Joko Widodo has repeatedly raised concerns about low-priced Chinese-made goods, and urged consumers to shun imported products. The country has imposed the strictest curbs on cross-border e-commerce sales in the region. It set a de minimis limit — the threshold below which goods are not subject to import duties — at $100, then lowered that to $75, and then to $3. Authorities also banned shopping on social media platforms last year, forcing TikTok Shop to close. But the platform was back online after about two months, saying it had met the requirements.

Across Southeast Asia, other governments are also cracking down with higher import duties and outright bans on some goods. Malaysia has a 10% sales tax on imported goods priced below 500 ringgit ($106), while the Philippines has imposed a 1% withholding tax on online merchants. In Thailand, the entry of Chinese e-commerce firm Temu has sparked calls for higher tariffs on some imported goods. More taxes and curbs on e-commerce firms may be imminent across the region, Simon Torring, co-founder of research firm Cube Asia, says.

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While Southeast Asian nations are trying to rein in Chinese e-commerce firms, they are also pulling out all the stops to welcome Chinese electric vehicle makers such as BYD and GWM, with subsidies and other incentives to set up manufacturing plants. Indonesia has a trade deficit with China, but authorities were forced to roll back some import restrictions earlier this year after complaints that they led to a slowdown in manufacturing.

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[–] taanegl@beehaw.org 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This, and Bangladesh. All places that rely on wage slavery, child labour and unethical working conditions, because that which is unethical is also very cheap.

You can't really compete with slavery, because again: it's very cheap, and the way the Chinese state leads Chinese farmers and villagers into social lock-ins, whereby they legally become stuck in an area where there's only grueling, deadly, soul crushing and back breaking labour that leads to a life of poverty becomes a problem for the rest of the world if it's used to manipulate the markets.

I do of course realise this article is about "too big to fail" companies that corner every market, but I also think that the west and the east needs to think about what it means to partake in a race to the bottom where wage slavery is part and parcel of the market. It creates conditions whereby competition involves who can make the most horrible living conditions in the world, and do you really want that?

There are Chinese labourer families who have been trying to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps" for generations now, and it's all thanks to other nations enabling the Chinese regime - especially the west.

[–] overflowingmemory@links.hackliberty.org 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Should automation with Robots and Mashines not beat slave labor in the long term since the industrial revolution started? ... Or the scary part is combining slavery with automation for an even cheaper system than just automation in a free society?

[–] taanegl@beehaw.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

The problem with automating everything is that suddenly consumers have no money to spend on products and services... you know what that means.

Universal Basic Income

That, or an oligarchy class keeps a distance between themselves and 99% of the people via privatised security, or even national security.

So socialism, or a return to the aristocracy. Take your pick.