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A single mildly bumpy ride won't turn you into an NFL domestic abuser, but over the course of 20+ years? And if you were on horses or in rickety carts from the time you were a squishy infant? Boom, curdled grey matter.

No horses = no war, no murder, just pure enlightenment and peace on Earth.

Beware the horse 👀

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[–] teft@lemmy.world 44 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How rough do you think riding a horse is?

You aren’t going to get CTE unless you’re falling off the thing. Horse riding is a pretty gentle event even when at a full gallop.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Betcha you could do it this way.

/j

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What's the context of this?

[–] superkret@feddit.org 41 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago

Italians making Westerns in the 60s: "Alla come viene, viene."

[–] finley@lemm.ee 36 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

that's not quite how that works. even at a gallop, you're more moving with the horse than being rattled by it, and carts/carriages/etc. had suspensions to make the ride smooth (mostly for the rougher, unpaved roads).

even then, CTE is believed to be caused by multiple, sustained impacts/shocks of a magnitude greater than what one would experience while riding a horse. speaking from personal experience, none of my horse-riding (or even carriage- or cart-riding) ever came close to being hit by an NFL lineman at full-speed or being on a bombing range.

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

none of my horse-riding (or even carriage- or cart-riding) ever came close to being hit by an NFL lineman at full-speed or being on a bombing range.

To be fair, you can get concussion symptoms from heading the ball too much in soccer. There doesn't need to be NFL or boxing type violence involved.

[–] finley@lemm.ee 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Clearly, you’ve never headed a ball in soccer. That’s quite a good bonk on the noggin, and still nothing close to riding a horse— which, I feel needs adding at this point: you don’t ride a horse with your head.

But now I’m reminded of back in the 90s before they banned the flip-throw and kids were breaking their necks trying it.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] finley@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I played quite a bit of soccer back in the day, yes. It's nowhere near the forces of a clash in the NFL, which is what was being mentioned as a typical example of what can give someone a concussion. All I'm saying is that it takes less force than many probably think. I'm not saying riding a horse gives you a concussion.

[–] finley@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

even still, the amount of force of the impact to the head while doing a header is far more than what you experience while riding a horse.

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago

I'm sure it is. I never said, nor did I mean to imply, that it isn't.

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 29 points 4 months ago

Fun fact: The Wild West was actually very tame and not very wild at all.

[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 12 points 4 months ago

I wouldn’t call Amish people particularly violent, and all their transport throughout their lives is horse/buggy/bike..

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 11 points 4 months ago

People mostly didn't ride horses, they had the horse pull wagons but they rode behind. You rode a horse where speed was needed, but that meant you have a series of places to trade out your now-tired horse.

Even horse above is wrong - you probably had oxen to pull the wagons not a horse. Oxen ate a lot less and where a lot easier to work with in general so they would have been preferred. Mules, donkeys, or even goats may have been used as well. There are pros and cons to all choices, but in general the horse was the most expensive and used only where it matters.

The horse was used in the American west above the others though. The prairie soil needed a plow that was pulled faster than the others, and so a horse was needed to break the ground. Cowboys road a horse because in the case of a stampede a horse was tall enough not get you killed (assuming you stayed on it), and fast enough to divert the herd. The above is specific to the situation in the American west and doesn't apply elsewhere. (note the that cowboy stampede situation is similar enough to knights in battle that both would use a horse despite the disadvantages)

The reason we mostly think of the horse is once the plow caught on in the America west it was enough better that much of the rest of the world started adopting it. This needed the industrial revolution to be under way though, and of course the tractor and automobile were not far behind. Before the industrial revolution were thousands of years where the horse was a rich person's toy, most didn't have them and if they had animal labor in reach they would want something else over the horse.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

I think it may have more to do with a large portion of those involved being civil war veterans

[–] Twinkletoes@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

It was probably all the booze

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago
[–] 30p87@feddit.org 3 points 4 months ago

No horses = no war, no murder, just pure enlightenment and peace on Earth.

Now include cockroaches, as they're the ones leading religion.

[–] randomdeadguy@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Quickly, get the horses out of Israel!