The loss of generational knowledge is a very real concern (in tech, not just piracy) that nobody talks about. I am genuinely concerned for the future of major Linux distros, for example.
this post was submitted on 10 Aug 2024
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I've wanted to contribute code to open source projects for years at this point but looking at the code just seems so daunting. I've only contributed things like icons, translations and map data in OSM. I did start working at my first job this week as a software developer, so I hope I'll get more experience in working with existing projects.
I did not get your specific concern, how does this apply to linux distros?
- Download content
- Share content with other people.
- Use protection
What content on what websites and how?
That is the main info that needs to be presented.
To be honest, this post seems very ignorant of the entire scene.
How do you know where to go? You run in techie circles and online groups. You look for ways to apply to different trackers. This isn’t hidden info.
You act like piracy is one big library that needs shoring up in specific places. It doesn’t really work like that. Find a few communities you like, download content from them that you like, seed forever.
After you have built a big library of things you are seeding, maybe volunteer for a low level staff position.
But the basic take away is that piracy is fine as it is. It doesn’t need you to save it. The best thing you can do is seed and keep learning.
Torrent is not the only way to pirate. You are telling me that piracy does not need saving, I disagree.
We need people who share books, songs, movies and more and this type of people are usually collectors rather than tech nerds.
Did you check the current state of torrent piracy? I barely find seeders.
I used to see people using torrent 5 years ago, now a lot of people don't even know what is torrent sadly.
The tldr here is we need to teach the next generation how to do it, otherwise it will be forgotten.
Well, I'd say take content you yourself like. Maybe something with value. It's always nice if people who are passionate about something are involved.
Regarding websites: I'm not sure if that's the correct way. Usually they're done by a small closed group. And if you want to be a pirate, you have to climb the ladders. There isn't a simple tutorial that makes you the captain stright away. You start scrubbing the deck, learn how things work, gain knowledge and choose where to get involved. Slowly you'll learn and someday may be crew or even first mate.
So dive in. Watch. See what you like and see if there's something at that place that could need your attention. And ask the people there.
A lot of piracy is really done by normal people like me and you( you can see this in case of journals, books, music, movies and porn)
No one will learn by watching, we need more people to get involved.
Nice try FBI!
I think the reason people don't post much about how to host pirated media and distribute to a wide audience is because in reality it's not so easy to do this. This community mainly exists to help people learn the basic of piracy: e.g., how to torrent safely, how to setup a jellyfin server, which websites are good for obtaining certain types of media, help with troubleshooting etc.
Let's take torrenting as an illustrative example. It's simple to learn how to download a torrent, and even simpler to seed it (though you might not think so given the actual number of damn seeders lol). But if you want to become a torrent uploader of your own pirated content there are many barriers to entry:
- If anyone could upload torrents to [insert your favorite public torrent tracker site here] then it would quickly become swamped by malicious uploads that contain malware. That's why it's hard to find any public trackers that allow torrent uploads. You may have better luck on a private tracker, but then you will have to jump through hoops to get an invite, and then prove yourself over a period of time.
- It takes time to establish a reputation as a trusted uploader, and even one (accidental or otherwise) slipup and you have destroyed your reputation. That's why pirates love uploaders like fitgirl (for example), who has created clean and trusted repacks for many years.
Hosting is problematic because it's a constant cat-and-mouse game with domains being seized frequently and DMCA notices being sent to the hosting provider who will often happily delete your account and give your info to the po po. You've also got to consider bandwidth and infrastructure costs.
Apps like Jellyfin are great for personal use (a few friends and family) but usually can't cope with a large number of simultaneous users. Online streaming piracy is very user friendly, but extremely expensive and technical to setup at scale.
You can upload to Usenet but you have to be very careful to hide your tracks since your IP address could be logged when uploading. And Usenet is often pretty hopeless for older stuff because uploaded content often gets copyright claimed quite quickly, and content is only retained for so long.
Maybe I2p is part of the answer? It has some enthusiastic advocates, but I haven't really engaged with it much so far.
I've found a old CD and put it up on Internet Archive, it's a place for old stuff to go.
Agree about the difficulty uploading. I tried to share torrents on a few sites for a video game (which was no longer possible to buy or download legitimately anyway) and some books I'd scanned but got rejected 🤷♀️ I understand they have to maintain a quality of uploads and uploaders but it would be nice if they could stay away malware while still making the barrier to entry for sharing your own benign torrents low.
Why not a pinned megathread? Or extend the already pinned megathread.
You're someone.
This is the new generation in a nutshell.
"Hey someone other then me should do this thing I want"
I mentain 2 websites already:
- Secu.pages.dev
- Crtv.pages.dev
I also used to contribute to FMHY before they put the complicated form to fill and I am trying to help with some open source projects.
I can't create the whole world online by myself, I want to be the change I want in the world, but that is too much.
So, yes someone other than me has to do it.
I think it's just your wording really. It is off-putting. Why not say, "I'd love it if there were a site that did this... Anyone aware of any efforts toward this? I'd love to contribute in a small way (since you seem to have the resources to help at least)."
This exactly.