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    [–] Nefyedardu@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I just don't get the vendetta GNOME has against background processes. GNOME devs just don't use email clients, cloud sync applications, chat clients...? GNOME treats my Nextcloud sync app (which I NEED to be running at all times) as if it was malware or something.

    [–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Context for not-Gnome users? How does a desktop care about anything not desktop?

    [–] Nefyedardu@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    If you minimize a window, it goes into a list of "Background Apps" in the charms menu where the only option you have is to close it. There's no native systems tray.

    [–] ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    there's a tray, it's just in the activities tab. press the super key (or click activities in the top left) to bring up the activities view, then the tray is at the bottom

    [–] Nefyedardu@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    That's an app launcher, not a systems tray

    [–] ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

    Well, it's where minimized apps go

    [–] Knusper@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

    I wasn't sure, what that screen looks like these days. Well, it wasn't terribly helpful to type into image search "gnome activities". 🙃

    [–] banazir@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah, if you need to install extensions to make GNOME usable, GNOME is not for you. Seriously, there are other options. I can't stand using GNOME, but they have a vision they are sticking to and I can respect that.

    Most distro maintainers disagree as they also ship Gnome with extensions pre loaded. Gnome with some extensions is an awesome DE.

    [–] mihnt@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Cinnamon is probably the best DE to give that old GNOME feel. At least in my opinion.

    [–] banazir@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

    Gnome also has their own GNOME Classic for people yearning for the old GNOME experience. Cinnamon is probably better though.

    [–] GenBlob@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

    I'm tired of GNOME messing with it's API but hopefully this is the last time since they're switching to a standard system. Besides that, it's my favorite DE on Linux. I have to give plasma 6 a shot when it comes out but right now GNOME feels just right compared to other desktops.

    [–] A10@kerala.party 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Exactly! Just integrate the bloody notification tray /running apps extension.

    [–] AlijahTheMediocre@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

    Change scary, my extension I used that is unmaintained won't work in Gnome 45 and it's Gnomes fault.

    [–] wolii1@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I have used XFCE, KDE, and GNOME and in my opinion, Gnome provides by far the best the best workflow for me. The UI is very keyboard-driven, which makes navigation very fast and intuitive. Also it doesn’t look like an outdated Windows version (like Plasma or XFCE) and I had way fewer bugs with it than with any other desktop.

    I find it interesting how everyone always talks about the „Unix philosophy“ („software should do one thing and do it well“) but at the same time everyone likes Plasma for having hundreds of useless, buggy features.

    Gnome has a core featureset and a robust extension-system if you need more. There is no bloatware in Gnome. And please don’t tell me something like „Gnome isn’t usable without a taskbar/dock“. It is, lots of people use it that way, not every desktop needs to be like macOS or Windows.

    Of course it’s okay to like another desktop environment more, but I just don’t get why Gnome gets so much hate.

    I've used GNOME for a year now.

    I don't understand people calling GNOME keyboard-driven, it doesn't even support keyboard shortcuts for more than 4 workspaces, and it doesn't support tiling other than left and right.

    I also feel like the plugin system is not great. The plugins break on every.single.update and you have to beg the maintainers to update them.

    I agree about a dock/taskbar miss me with that :P

    What frustrates me about GNOME is that it's otherwise so well-polished and smooth but just refuses to be easily customizable.

    [–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    GNOME is basically the Apple of desktop environments. "You're wrong to want this super common thing, we know what's better for you and don't you defy us!"

    [–] kaba0@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

    You are free to fork it at anytime. I really can’t hate them for having a cohesive vision they plan on developing.