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[–] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 88 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Except the salad was named after its inventor Ceasar Cardini https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_salad

[–] norimee@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So the correct text should be "Having a salad named after someone named after you."

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

well named after a collection of people with that as a regnal name.

[–] Blackout@kbin.run 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I just found out the original recipe didn't have anchovies in it. Some sick fuck came along and said to themselves I wonder if I can hide this fish paste in a salad

[–] abfarid@startrek.website 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I have never seen anchovies in a Caesar salad. Is it a regional thing?

Edit: It's in the dressing, right. My bad.

[–] PolyLlamaRous@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It's normal in the US, Germany, and New Zealand. Elsewhere I can't say. It is often removed from store bought dressings to make it vegetarian but is in any quality dressing. I would say it's typical everywhere but can't say for sure. Also, I was a chef in those places, it's how it know.

[–] PolyLlamaRous@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Note after reading your comment again. You wouldn't see them in the salad as they are blended into the dressing.

[–] abfarid@startrek.website 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ahh, into the dressing makes sense, yeah. I think I've done that myself before, now that I think of it...

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've also seen very self consciously posh versions in California that have a few anchovies draped on top.

[–] PolyLlamaRous@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Haha, yeah, I've worked in a place that did that in Oregon. But they had bomb vinegar cured anchovies though.

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

normal in the US

Anecdotally,

Having been all over the Midwest, and occasionally to the east coast, I have never once seen anchovies in a salad, and having asked my parents, neither of them have either, and my dad has been all over the world.

So I'm thinking it's more regional, or even familial in some places.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Having been all over the Midwest, and occasionally to the east coast

A jet setter, I see.

Correct, people with little money in a country the size of some "continents" don't get to leave their general area often.

Sorry to disappoint you.

[–] naught@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago

It's in the caesar dressing. You wouldn't see it

[–] PolyLlamaRous@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Well... As I said... You wouldn't see them as they are pureed into the dressing. Like in worcestershire sauce most people don't know it's there. But It is a normal item in the dressing weather you or dad knew about it. I was trained in Portland Oregon as a chef, and was a chef in every corner of the states. Literally, including Hawaii. In addition I have also traveled like your dad. I have a tattoo on my side of 26 countries that I was in for a month or more... Cooking and making this thing we are talking about. Not in just one region somewhere. 😂 But you don't have to take my word for it. Look it up.

"Modern recipes typically include anchovies as a key ingredient" from Google when looking it up.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

And the outcome was glorious!

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] lath@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

We hail from hunter-gatherers, as such the salad was named first.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

tfw the salad was named for a hispanic chef but the roman emperor gets to steal the credit

also a dumb edit war

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Great_Edit_War

[–] doctordevice@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well, not a Hispanic chef. An Italian chef living in Tijuana.

[–] aodhsishaj@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Considering Hispaniola was never a thing, and Caesar was a naturalized citizen of Mexico. You can just say Mexican chef

[–] doctordevice@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

That's certainly more accurate than "Hispanic chef" which is just entirely wrong, but I still think that's not the best way to describe him. Do you have a source for his Mexican citizenship? I can't find it anywhere.

All I can find is basically a residential history. Born 1896 in Baveno, Italy; moved around a lot in the 1910s (Italy --> Montreal --> back to Italy --> Sacramento --> San Diego). As he moved around California he was involved in the restaurant business and eventually established restaurants in Tijuana to get around Prohibition. So that must have been early 1920s, then he eventually moved back to California in 1936 and stayed there (occasionally moving cities) until his death in 1956.

I think "Italian chef" is certainly the least ambiguous way to describe him. "Italian immigrant chef in Tijuana" is a bit of a mouthful.

Edit: honestly it's not even clear if he lived in Tijuana or still lived in San Diego and just worked in Tijuana (initially because of Prohibition). He got married in Santa Ana in 1924 (same year as the credited Caesar salad invention). His daughter was born in San Diego in 1928.

[–] UrbonMaximus@feddit.uk 35 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Actually the title was named after Caesar to mean emperor after his death. It was so influential that many languages use this word as well. Famous examples would be Tzar in Russian or Keiser in German.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Kaiser actually is one of the few German words with 'ai' instead of 'ei' and reflects basically the Roman pronounciation of Caesar.
Btw: Pronouncing 'C' as 'ts / z' instead of 'k' has been a Germanic thing already back then.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Kaiser just rolls off the tongue better.

[–] 0laura@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] CertifiedBlackGuy@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

They are everywhere.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The term originates from 'caedere' (to kill), not from 'Caesar', but 'Ceasar' has the same origin.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I assume because during that era mothers died after this operation?

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 2 points 3 months ago

The operation also often was performed when the mother was dying or about to.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Which ruler is the first one? I wasn’t aware of a country being named after one

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 34 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago
[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Thank you! I knew who it was, but the name slipped my mind and, the only country my stupid brain would associate him with was Columbia. 😂

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

I wasn’t aware of a country being named after one

apart from this guy, the Philippines are named after King Philip II of Spain.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 19 points 3 months ago

Senator: "Dictator, however will we address hunger amongst the plebs!?"

Caesar, drizzling olive oil over some lettuce and stale bread: "Amicus, you are not going to believe what I just made"

[–] Turun@feddit.de 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What about the month? That's gotta be worth something!

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They know nothing of the house of juli ai turunicus.

[–] Martinphipps@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Earl of Sandwich for the win.

[–] Emmie@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I am naming my own og salad Adolf and you can’t really stop me.