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[–] Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de 78 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Valve throwing some money/developer time at Waydroid would be awesome

[–] offspec@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

As far as I understand that's exactly what's been happening behind the scenes.

[–] bitfucker@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Proton is throwing money at wine IIRC

[–] Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 months ago

Yes, that's what I meant. I hope they do something similar for waydroid.

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[–] lustyargonian@lemm.ee 64 points 3 months ago (3 children)

SteamDeck, emulate everything.*

  • Proton technically isn't emulation, but it's pretty crazy that the device basically doesn't have anything natively built for it, everything is translated emulated. It took that much effort to break Microsoft's PC gaming monopoly.
[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 30 points 3 months ago

The Deck is what have me the confidence to move to Linux on desktop. I wouldn't have switched if not for Valve.

[–] Persi@lemm.ee 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Regardless of what the website says, waydroid isn't an emulator by any meaningful definition.

It's a container that runs on top of your regular linux kernel (with some very cool desktop integration features), java/kotlin applications run as natively as they'd run on your phone.

[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago

That's interesting. I didn't know that. I tried working with Waydroid once on Bazzite on an older desktop of mine and didn't get terribly far with it.

[–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

translation is kind of native though. It is almost like porting a winfows app to linux in real time, on the fly. It is pretty cool

[–] lustyargonian@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it's pretty cool. Sometimes the translation can even beat native performance.

[–] FreeLikeGNU@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Sadly that's mostly true, but that may have more to do with devs lack of experience with Linux in general. Often they would have to outsource the port to Aspyr or another team.

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 45 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Guess they want to make it easy for mobile devs to launch their games on steam. Not sure if there's a market for it though.

[–] dwalin@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago

Don't these guys have phones??? (Blizzard style)

[–] skulbuny@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Uhh.. for their steam deck I'd think 😂 not that it'd be a primarily mobile gaming device, but no reason not to put your mobile games on it if you like them

[–] Leg@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This was my first thought. I've wanted to be able to play mobile games on my steam deck since I got it.

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[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (2 children)

No idea why it's difficult to run android on PC in the first place. Windows 11 can do it, but I'm clinging to 10 until it's gone.

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Still pisses me off, this was one of the reasons I updated and they half-assed the implemenation then said they're killing it because no one is using it... no shit no one is using it, you hid it it behind the Amazon App (that no one uses) in the MS Store (that no one uses) and layers of docs for sideloading.

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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Have you heard the good news about Linux?

[–] SatyrSack@lemmy.one 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It is still surprisingly far from straightforward to get it working

EDIT: I mean Android on Linux is difficult. Not Linux itself.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Fair enough. I'm just fulfilling Lemmy's contractual obligation to mention Linux any time someone doesn't want to "upgrade" to Windows 11.

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

Linus pays me $100 a month for spamming Linux. You also get payed, right?

[–] hoch@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

"Hey instead of complaining about a few minor annoyances on Windows, why not just switch to Linux?"

Like I have many uses for Linux and appreciate it, but the amount of suggestions that I see telling someone that Linux is the fix is way too many

The point here is that MS made a pretty killer feature that was easy to set up, and it failed because nobody used it.

[–] FreeLikeGNU@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

In the end you are still at the mercy of their shareholders and their core mission of EEE over end-user empowerment. Every thing they build is designed with lock-in and obfuscation to protect themselves.

[–] pathief@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I fear becoming that guy, can you call me out if I do? Cheers.

[–] FreeLikeGNU@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

Hmm something about this has me fantasizing about a phone sized deck. But considering Valves development of VR and this development, I think they are going to tap into the android based VR dev pool for porting titles to an official Android on Steam platform.

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