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[–] ghostsinthephotograph@lemmy.world 105 points 5 months ago (2 children)

First I've read about this with Paris Hilton. Some things are making so much more sense.

[–] DadVolante@sh.itjust.works 31 points 5 months ago (2 children)

There's a documentary for free on YouTube. It's good.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yep. When I got out of bed this morning I would not have predicted this would be the day I'd have respect or sympathy for Paris Hilton.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I mean she bought a teacup pig and when she realised it's a scam and the tiny pig turned into i gigantic pig, she kept it as a pet. I kinda always found that sweet. But i also don't know anything else about her

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0362153/

She pretty much created her own bad reputation. Not just from this show, but it definitely cemented it. There was also a sex tape scandal, but I think it was wrong to slutshame someone for something like that even back then.

Her main reputation was always vapid, filthy rich, snotty socialite - she was hardly the first, but she might have been the first we got to watch in a seasons-long reality show.

Edited to add - if that stuff was all an intentional move to bring shame on her family for how they mistreated her growing up, I'm now her biggest cheerleader.

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 68 points 5 months ago (1 children)

“Ms Hilton, I first read about your story in Vanity Fair. I don’t usually read that magazine, my wife does. She told me, ‘You have to read this story. You won’t believe what happened to her,’” Representative Mike Kelly said. “You telling what happened to you...is absolutely incredible and opens up a whole new vision for the rest of us.”

Nice save there, Mike.

Well, if it's going to be the government of celebrity, maybe we can at least get some good done with it.

[–] EvilEyedPanda@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

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[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 months ago

Yes, please!

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 61 points 5 months ago (4 children)
[–] VerdantSporeSeasoning@lemmy.ca 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I read most of that (think I missed the last few chapters, but he was out of Elan and had done some traveling)--it was horrifying. There's also a 3 episode documentary on Netflix called "The Program" where the documentary maker revisits the now closed school where she went (The Academy at Ivy Ridge) and by episode 3, she's followed the money to one family behind a lot of these institutions. But as she and former AaIR students actually see other facilities far from where they were locked up, they're all carbon copies of each other, they're all just the same punish-for-everything camps with no escape. Fucked up that there's like a formal recipe for how to do this to families and not get caught. And that there are so few legal protections for children.

[–] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'll never forget my probation officer telling me that "Children don't have rights" when I pressed them about my rights (as a child at the time).

[–] VerdantSporeSeasoning@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago

I'm so sorry that happened to you.

I really tend to hate the parents' rights crowds. Children deserve rights and knowledge and community.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The podcaster host Brace Belden of TrueAnon was forced into The Monarch School as a teenager, which had a similar curriculum to Elan. His podcast takes some deep dives into the treatment of students as part of "The Game" miniseries. Episode 4, in particular, focuses on how the Synanon organization transforms itself from a cultish and violent drug rehab operation into an even more predatory troubled teen outreach organization.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

The Monarch School

0% stealth.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Yeah that’s one of the roughest reads of my life. Found it years back and oof. Important though

[–] Cavemanfreak@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Found that site at around chapter 30 or so. It's a damn good (and horrifying) read.

She is 43? The hell. I had no idea she was about my age.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 5 points 5 months ago

Have the incels arrived or wtf are these comments here?

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