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[–] elxeno@lemm.ee 213 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Disaster@sh.itjust.works 22 points 4 months ago

Yeah, kinda funny how it's OK when there's a bunch of neoliberal gangsters like larry summers behind it, right?

[–] Yuki@kutsuya.dev 209 points 4 months ago
[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 175 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You know, this thread really needs a list of of the publishers responsible for this travesty.

"Publishers Hachette Book Group Inc, HarperCollins Publishers LLC, John Wiley & Sons Inc and Penguin Random House LLC" - According to Reuters

[–] Dud@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

Of course those Penguin fucks are involved.

[–] ChowJeeBai@lemmy.world 125 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Welp, hope they're backed up somewhere in an uncentralised, segmented, shareable form where people can still access them from the internet.

[–] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 54 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's a Minecraft server that has books and articles stored. it's called The Uncensored Library, (visit.uncensoredlibrary.com), and they have various articles and books that are free to view. The Uncensored Library was created by Reporters Without Borders. If I were the people of the Internet Archive, I'd be talking to the folks in the RSF about porting some of their content to this virtual library.

[–] Jordan117@lemmy.world 53 points 4 months ago (9 children)

It only contains a relatively small collection of banned reporting from various countries, not the whole Internet Archive, and only in the form of in-game books, not anything really usable IRL. It's neat but basically a promotional project for RWB.

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 113 points 4 months ago (16 children)

We live in a system that actively prevents humans to get more knowledge, go figure.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 62 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We live in a system that monetizes everything, then seeks to restrict access to those things in order to profit.

Knowledge is just one casualty.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Scarcity is money and if there is no scarcity laws will be bought to to artificially create said scarcity.

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 112 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There are a lot of books that are out of print, especially reference books. And if you look for them on Amazon or eBay, they've been snapped up by scalpers who are reselling them for obscene profit.

Either make the books available for sale or quit complaining about "copyright infringement." But whatever you do, quit hoarding knowledge like a dragon sitting on a pile of gold.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 84 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Exactly. Copyright should be nullified if there's no longer first party sales.

We should also go back to the original copyright duration: 14 years with an optional, one-time extension for an additional 14 years.

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[–] notnotmike@programming.dev 83 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I was looking for resources for a custom LLM and noticed they had a ton of copyrighted books and wondered to myself how the heck that was legal

I guess this answers that

[–] cafeinux@infosec.pub 102 points 4 months ago (60 children)

Just like regular libraries have copyrighted books: they lend them to one person at a time.

[–] notnotmike@programming.dev 32 points 4 months ago (3 children)

They definitely weren't monitoring the one at a time rule... I downloaded the file and now have it forever

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 75 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm no computer scientist, but I have a suggestion:

[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Also change the folder name to "Homework"

[–] lemmy_nightmare@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)
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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 50 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I hope they remove them like how Apple removed deleted texts.

[–] Dark_Dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 4 months ago

Also the "deleted images" years back from icloud

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[–] Feliskatos@lemmy.world 46 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I wish the cost of internet access decreased to match decreased available content. Internet shrinkinflation?

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[–] uebquauntbez@lemmy.world 41 points 4 months ago (2 children)

So OpenAI is next to stop using those too?

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 40 points 4 months ago

No. That would involve the general public maintaining a consistent position.

I want knowledge to be free. That means free. That means governments, businesses, NGOs, your local church sewing circle, AIs/LLMs, refugees living in tents, convicts, children, and any other humans or human organizations or anything humans built.

I am willing to accept a LIMITED duration copyright and patent and private science publication system if it could be reformed such that it the brains behind it were paid and couldn't legally sign away their compensation. Given that we as a society aren't willing to build this the best course of action is to actively work to break copyright

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 40 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Hopefully they have an offline backup in storage somewhere for when the current shitshow ends

[–] Colonel_Panic_@lemm.ee 21 points 4 months ago

(Unplugs external drive)

"I deleted them."

"You deleted all of them?"

"Yep, not on the website anymore. See."

"Ok.... Good.... But I'm watching you."

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[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 39 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If anyone wants my ebook library just let me know.

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[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 38 points 4 months ago

Time to create some torrents? Let's see them fight with the Netherlands on what's seeding in Europe lol

[–] T156@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The internet archive plans to appeal the ruling, so the fight is hardly over at this juncture.

Would be interesting to see where it goes.

[–] ratzki@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 4 months ago

This means there is still time for data hoarders to react?

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[–] unrushed233@lemmings.world 37 points 4 months ago

Sign the petition! Not sure if it is going to make any difference, but it just takes a couple of minutes. https://www.change.org/p/let-readers-read-an-open-letter-to-the-publishers-in-hachette-v-internet-archive

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago

That's good. The internet is for advertiser's and businesses. Its not for archives of information

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

Great, another victory of people keeping IP in closed box away from the public at the small cost of culture disappearing.

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