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What to play after experiencing Chrono Trigger? (lemm.ee)
submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by verycoolusername@lemm.ee to c/patientgamers@sh.itjust.works
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Left feeling a bit empty after playing it for the first time a few months ago(why did I wait so long?) I am afraid no JRPG will be able to surpass it. Would love to have a discussion about similar games that reach the same quality level (Note: I have already played Final Fantasy VI ).

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[–] Shihali@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nothing else reaches the same quality as Chrono Trigger in the same way. You have to settle for lower quality with similar pacing, or try to reach the same level of quality in a different way.

Similar pacing, lower quality: Phantasy Star IV, Super Mario RPG, Final Fantasy IV
Comparable quality, different style: Earthbound, Final Fantasy VII (FF6 is the real answer, but FF7 is the most similar game to FF6)
Similar aspects, lower quality: Dragon Quest IV, Radical Dreamers & Chrono Cross, possibly Radiant Historia

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

Radiant Historia definitely hits some of the same notes.

[–] BeeJackPin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I can't believe it hasn't been mentioned much but Secret of Mana is definitely a strong contender as GOAT JRPG, as good if not better than Chrono Trigge imo.

[–] ikapoz@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Better? Never. I will say it is the by far the best real multi player rpg I’ve played.

[–] counselwolf@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

multiplayer? would it be a good game for a couple?

[–] ikapoz@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh totally, and one player can readily dip in and dip out if you’ve got differing interest levels.

[–] counselwolf@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

damn, never realized that's a thing. My SO doesn't have the time to game that much, so that'd be really helpful.

Can you recommend other games with similar multiplayer mechanics as well?

[–] Crozekiel@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

Earthbound is fantastic. Also, Chrono Trigger has several different endings and secret things to accomplish along the way, so it is good for more than one play-through. Finally, I remember stumbling into a game decades ago around the same time I first discovered Chrono Trigger called Seiken Densetsu. I remember having a copy in English and really liking it.

[–] hogart@feddit.nu 1 points 11 months ago

I just love everything about Ni No Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch. The second game never came close for me. But most have already played it.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

More Chrono Trigger!

Have you seen all, IIRC, 11 endings?

Honestly, nothing ever hit the same for me. Even Chrono Cross, which I'm sure tons of people love and is supposed to be somewhat of a sequel to Chrono Trigger (I mean... Final Fantasy games did this too where the stories were totally unrelated but were still "sequels"), was unable to draw me in.

Something about the camaraderie between the characters in Trigger just also felt so much more special than in any other JRPG for me. Western RPGs tend to do this a lot; Baldur's Gate 3 is extremely good at making you want to hang out with the companion characters.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Quick note, Cross is very deeply, broadly, and extensively a sequel to Trigger.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Eh officially it is. In reality though they tacked all the references to Chrono Trigger in at the end of development.

[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Chrono trigger has a sequel, Chrono cross

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Great game. Awful sequel.

[–] Shalakushka@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I agree with this assessment a lot. The art and environmental design is gorgeous. The music is top notch (the battle theme is a bit polarizing though). In terms of production it's seriously well put together, for the most part. But, it suffers a lot of the worst excesses of 90s JRPG design, with a meandering, nonsensical plot and a battle system that's more interested in being fiddly than in being fun. It feels like one of the worst examples of a company just straight up not understanding the appeal of a game and making a "sequel" that could easily have been called something else. As a recommendation for someone just coming off of Chrono Trigger, I can hardly imagine something worse, oddly.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

I disagree. As for the meandering, your nostalgia is blinding you to how bonkers Chrono Trigger's story is.
"You turn the corner and you're in a space station now but it's also at the bottom of the ocean and floating up in the sky at all times simultaneously and the guards are knockoffs of this one goofy karaoke cat machine your childhood friend made for some reason, now crash your TARDIS into it so you can go fight cyber god mom before she wakes up the ufo that's using our planet as an egg for the third time, your team is a super Saiyan clone with a samurai sword, the mechanic from dr slump, a cavewoman you abducted, an evil robot with memory loss, cyber god mom's goth son Dracula, tomboy princess and some frog"
The major plot points are "fighting a bridge zombie", "Ozzie's in a pickle", "showing a necklace to some treasure chests", "jailbreak", "oh no time is broken", "genre whiplash", "jailbreak again", "the time machine flies now", "did those two goblins just say by our powers combined", "eyes cream", and "time to kill god x5".
I love Chrono Trigger deeply. But the biggest sin Chrono Cross committed was that they just threw more things at the wall in their nearly identical "throw everything at the wall and see what sticks" approach.

Sidenote: I will fight for Cross's combat system.

[–] Hailstorm8440@sh.itjust.works -1 points 11 months ago

Earthbound probably