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[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A coma? Sleeping? A technology cleanse? I'm not sure I understand the intent behind the question.

[–] clueless_stoner@feddit.nl 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Sleeping comes closer. OP asks the real life equivalent of being AFK which, assuming you're normally regularly online, only really corresponds to being high or sleeping.

[–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

OP asks the real life equivalent of being AFK which, assuming you’re normally regularly online, only really corresponds to being high or sleeping.

The funny thing is, it didn't occur to me how vague my question was until after I posted and started seeing the replies. That's made it more fun tbh, and interesting as in this context (online vs. in real life) I've not really thought of being online in such individualistic terms as this and some other replies suggest.

[–] clueless_stoner@feddit.nl 6 points 7 months ago

Haha. That's the neat part, coming across points of view you haven't thought of before! People really do get high in a lot of different ways and be "offline" in a a lot of different ways. LOL

[–] Paragone@lemmy.world -2 points 7 months ago

The opposites might be:

  • centered-in-appearances/distractions
  • centered in one's profoundest-fundamentallest-awareness

Framing it that way, then yoga-practice augmented meditation would be as IRL as one could get, for meditators..

and RMind-mode sentience, a sentience where words-communication doesn't even exist as an appendage of one's mind , where ONLY what-is is real, and this is reachable through working-through the exercises in Betty Edwards' "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, the 4th Definitive Edition", but use charcoals, I've no idea why she doesn't understand how much better they work to help facilitate the hemisphere-dominance-shift into right-hemisphere-dominance-mode..

that timeless sentience is .. inexpressible in symbol-streams, which is what the "online" experience holds reality to itself be..

The people who proclaim that RMind is just pop-psychology bunk have never done the experiment , AND won't do the experiment , AND they refuse to differentiate between scrawlings done in LMind & the actually-visible-different-results of RMind

https://www.drawright.com/before-after

allows you to use the "prev" & "next" buttons to scroll through a gallery showing the sentience-difference, the what-actually-is centrism of RMind.

Those horrid scrawlings that used to populate New Scientist magazine, back when I subscribed, had nothing to do with right-hemisphere-dominance-mode.

Those who "debunk" RMind do so using Scientism's method of substitution-of-the-actual-question:

they test scrawling, measure that it isn't different from normal LMind, then pretend that that "proves" RMind doesn't exist.

See those image-pairs, in that gallery, though: that is EVIDENCE, which is supposed to be the basis of real Science.

Do the experiment, & it'll open an entire dimension of meaning in your life, that "education" had blocked-out from most lives, quite effectively.

( I'm autistic: what her "killer class" can do with a neurotypical in 5 days, took me 3 YEARS to equal, because sentience-mode-shift made me want to scream.

I dropped it.

Now I'm trying to re-learn, and it's grindingly slow.

Better grindingly slow than dead, however, eh? : )

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[–] kakes@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You might be interested in the philosophy of Hyperreality.

[–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

This does seem to come closer to what I was wondering about when I originally posted, good eye!

[–] clueless_stoner@feddit.nl 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[–] Bocky@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago
[–] dumples@kbin.social 4 points 7 months ago

Whatever you do outside of work. That's real life not whatever you do pay for your real life.

[–] Sidhean@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

...nonexistant?

ISP: in surreal/supernatural life

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

The Matrix - it's so IRL you hit an integer overflow on the server running IRL.

[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

You could think of it in terms of time: online is the exception, while IRL is the default state. Then, what would be the most default state in normal life?

I think awake and sleep could form a pair like that. Being awake takes more time than sleeping, so awake would be the default state. You could also think that various other altered states of mind could be the exception instead of being asleep.

Being high as a kite and being sober form a dichotomy similar to that of being online vs. being IRL.

[–] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Appreciate the reply! It's a cool way to view it in individual terms. I was thinking in more social terms, however, which I've been a little fascinated to find seems to be a little atypical from the replies so far.

[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 months ago

Oh, that’s a fun new way to look at it. So, if we say that IRL is less social and boring, wehereas online life is more social and fun, then we could compare that with normal workdays and parties.

[–] MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago