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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

If you're just interested in moving text back and forth, you could use any end to end encrypted messaging app.

Signal, signal desktop

Session

Anything where you can pass text messages

[–] zecg@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Signal's "Note to self" is an option.

[–] VelociCatTurd@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't allow iCloud on my Mac.

[–] VelociCatTurd@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You don’t have to use iCloud. I assume any major email will let you sync notes.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Do you mean in a similar fashion as Calendars and Contacts? Are you sure that's like a "NotesDav" and not just iCloud?

[–] mkwarman@lemmy.mkwarman.com 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I have found that the Universal Clipboard works well for me

[–] investorsexchange@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Also, if you are logged in to iCloud and you copy text on your iPhone, you can paste it on your Mac. And vice versa.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I don't allow iCloud or iMessage on my Mac. They are just to problematic for me in that context.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Does that require iCloud? I won't use iCloud on my Mac :(

[–] mkwarman@lemmy.mkwarman.com 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes. It would be a security issue without iCloud, as there would be no way to prevent an unauthorized party from accessing clipboard contents

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I can do Airplay/Screen mirrorin/AirDrop between like 4/5 different devices without iCloud, I don't think that's so much an issue if my analogy here is relevant to the points you raised

[–] randomTingler@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm not a user of Apple products. But KDE has developed a tool to share stuff locally.

https://kdeconnect.kde.org/download.html

The requirement is that both the devices should be in the same local network. Give it a try and provide your feedback.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes I should check that one out. I've had success using Sync to sync other dynamic files that I need to keep up to date but again, it can be a little clunky and it mostly works at the file level rather than random bits of text that aren't even technically at the level of a file (I don't think?)

[–] randomTingler@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

You can share the clipboard. I always do it between mobile and Linux pc. I assume you can't keep the history of what you copied into the clipboard in Mac or iOS.

[–] darkstar@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago

Literally just use Signal. E2EE and open source

[–] cosmic_slate@dmv.social 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What security issues are you talking about? Universal Clipboard (via Handoff) operates over BLE locally. iCloud is used in part of the process to facilitate key exchange.

If the government/other actor is going through the effort of getting Apple to somehow disclose this key (assuming that it would even be possible) and lurk outside your window, you have bigger things to worry about.

https://support.apple.com/guide/security/handoff-security-secf78dbe639/web

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Edit: I need to read up and differentiate

  1. Universal clipboard
  2. Handoff
  3. Continuity
  4. anything else?

My mistake definitely for not trying to clarify these disparate terms beforehand. Thanks, I will try to do that

[–] cosmic_slate@dmv.social 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Read the link I provided. Apple documents the security mechanisms of how a lot of their services work. Universal Clipboard (and handoff) does not use iMessage.

You may find additional things documented here:

https://support.apple.com/guide/security/welcome/web

This whole area of their support site is well worth the read if you are concerned about security and privacy.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I've read a lot of their whitepapery security stuff but my understanding and differentiation of terms like "Continuity", "Handoff", "Universal ______", "Airplay" vs "Screen Mirroring" etc needs revision and reconsolidation.

[–] YourAvgMortal@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I don’t know if you count airdrop as continuity, but you could try that. Also, you should be able to iMessage yourself

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How fo you AirDrop just like highligted text?

[–] redballooon@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Highlight so that this menu comes up that allows you to cut, copy etc. Scroll to the right until β€œShare…” becomes available. Select that, then Airdrop

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I think this might be the way

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Ding-ding-ding! This is the way, thank you!

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Full disclosure: i use AirPlay already so I might already be an ignorant hypocrite but I just can't seem to figure this out without y'all's help 😭

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean by continuity issues?

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I thought Continuity was an iCloud thing, rather than a bluetooth thing. I have concerns about iCloud and iMessage but bluetooth I'm seemingly more comfortable with

[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh, Continuity is a piece of software. I thought you were describing like the state of text through time or something. lol

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Capitalization (and punctuation) saves lives hehe

[–] hotstove@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Stop asking the same question in the same sub.