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Not a Number (jemmy.jeena.net)

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You ever have one of those moments when you just put 2 and 2 together, and also that you should have had that realization many years ago?

I just realized what NaN stands for...

This must be what people who get told "you can just wait for the shower water to warm up before hopping in" feel like.

[-] Mesa@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago

The elephant and rope parable rings its bell of sound morals!

Not so much the realizing what NaN means; that's more relevant to that XKCD which I probably don't need to describe here.

[-] Oka@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 month ago

"That makes it free, right?"

[-] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 month ago

Not only that, it makes your entire purchase free due to NaN arithmetic.

[-] BlueKey@kbin.run 5 points 1 month ago

But as you mention, NaN propagates.
So at checkout, your wallet will become NaN, as the shops money balance. Then it will spread to your bank account and before you realize what happens the whole banking-district is in flames.

[-] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 1 points 1 month ago

no, it costs NaN, now remove NaN from your account...

...oh no

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Technically it has a pricetag, so...

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 1 month ago

0*(NaN)... So does that mean the price IS a number?

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 26 points 1 month ago

Isn't any math operation involving NaNs also a NaN? At least that's my gut feeling.

[-] NegativeInf@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Based on my frequent exploding and vanishing gradients, that would be a yes.

[-] match@pawb.social 6 points 1 month ago

Thanks, relevant username!

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago

Good point.

[-] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago

I suppressed most of my former js knowledge but I guess it's a string now.

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Javascript carcinization.

[-] tiredofsametab@kbin.run 7 points 1 month ago

In JS, it's just NaN if my browser's console is to be believed. I suspected it would probably be {object} for no clear reason

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 month ago

for no clear reason

JS That's the reason. The language has an awful type system.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I think its type system is "okay", I mean inherently dynamic typing is pretty error-prone. But its type coercion algorithms are bonkers. Also that whole "NaN ≠ NaN" business...

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago

Also that whole "NaN ≠ NaN" business...

See that's one of the parts that is actually almost in line with other languages. In Go, for example, nil ≠ nil because nil is, by definition, undefined. You can't say whether one thing that you know nothing about is at all like something else that you know nothing about. It really should raise an exception at the attempt to compare NaN though.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

If nil ≠ nil, how do you compare a variable to the literal?

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

You'd first check for nil values, then compare like normal. Extra step, yes, but it keeps you from hitting NPEs through that route.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

You'd first check for nil values

What does this mean, if not the same as

then compare like normal

?

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

IIRC, a nil value can be checked against a literal successfully but not against another nil value. Say you want to check for equality of two vars that could be nil. You just need an extra if statement to ensure that you are not trying to compare nil and nil or nil and a non-nil value (that'll give you a type error or NPE):

var a *string
var b *string

...
if a != nil && b != nil {
  if a == b {
    fmt.Println("Party!")
  } else {
    fmt.Println("Also Party!")
}
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[-] TheOakTree@beehaw.org 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If 0/0 is NaN, then does that mean 0*NaN = 0*0/0 = 0?

[-] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 2 points 1 month ago

0*NaN = NaN

[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 month ago

dirty onanists spilling their seed

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Lennin died, with him died lenninism. Stalin died, with him died stalinism. Grandpa Onan, don't die!

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[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 16 points 1 month ago

In my language, onanování is masturbating. And onan is a mild insult insinuating that someone wanks a lot.

[-] wanderer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

It's onanism in English. And it's rather stupid to call it that because Onan didn't masturbate, he used the pull out method to avoid getting his sister-in-law pregnant with his brother's kid. (yes, I know that sounds weird but that's the story)

[-] andioop@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

I figure it is called that because both the pull-out method and masturbation for penis-havers involves spilling your seed somewhere outside of a woman's womb.

[-] wanderer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Yes, from a superficial viewpoint they are similar. And from a superficial viewpoint shooting a practice target is similar to shooting a person dead. It would be rather stupid to refer to target practice as murder.

[-] andioop@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

I get your point, but considering that we got the word "Onanism" from the Bible I was thinking about some Christian denominations' views of why God wasn't happy with Onan in the Bible: because he ejaculated without trying to procreate. That is why I thought it was relevant to tie those two things together like that.

[-] wanderer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Onan's crime was greed not lust. He did not want to provide for Tamar or her potential children.

[-] andioop@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

According to Wikipedia, Biblical scholars essentially agree with you, to the point

Bible scholars even maintain that the Bible does not claim that masturbation would be sinful.

which is pretty cool especially given my prior belief that most people agreed it was about lust. Wikipedia does also say that some Christian denominations have interpreted the sin to be as lust, though.

And Catholicism, at least, still doesn't like the ejaculation without procreation:

Since, therefore, the conjugal act is destined primarily by nature for the begetting of children, those who in exercising it deliberately frustrate its natural power and purpose sin against nature and commit a deed which is shameful and intrinsically vicious.

Small wonder, therefore, if Holy Writ bears witness that the Divine Majesty regards with greatest detestation this horrible crime and at times has punished it with death. As St. Augustine notes, "Intercourse even with one's legitimate wife is unlawful and wicked where the conception of the offspring is prevented. Onan, the son of Juda, did this and the Lord killed him for it."

(number 54 and 55 in a Pope Pius XI encyclical)

(I never thought I'd be discussing religion on programming.dev lol)

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[-] kamenlady@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago
[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago
[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 3 points 1 month ago

Onanizál in Hungarian.

Central European gang rise up!

[-] Muscar@discuss.online 1 points 1 month ago

Onani in Swedish, which this image is from.

[-] psmgx@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago
[-] blackbrook@mander.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

...spilled his arithmetic overflow on the ground.

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[-] anakin78z@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I like how the code adds a 0 at the start.

[-] EarMaster@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

The code probably checks if the following number is greater than 10 (which fails for NaN) and otherwise adds a 0 in front.

[-] SuperIce@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

It's priceless

[-] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 4 points 1 month ago
[-] Laylong@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago

cost = "arm" + "leg";

[-] Manzas@lemdro.id 3 points 3 weeks ago
[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago

lidl quality

[-] xia@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

Ooo na na...

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