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[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 70 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The whole concept of the self‑made man or woman is a myth

- Arnold Schwarzenegger

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[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 54 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I'm too tired to look it up, but I remember someone saying that resilience or grit was one of the best indicators of success. Someone replied that actually the best indicator of success is if you came from wealth.

[–] loonsun@sh.itjust.works 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Also grit is an over hyped and under delivered construct of human cognition that really is only spoken of seriously nowadays by people trying to sell you something

https://www.apa.org/news/apa/2020/gritty-truth

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

grit makes me think of Bukowski novels like Post Office. Just a bunch of dudes laboring to look like they're working hard to please the boss, rather than to do the labor.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 3 points 4 months ago

Personally grit makes me think of literal sand. Or dirt in general. It's something you wash off the first chance you get. Not exactly something to be celebrated.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 17 points 4 months ago

Lol sure, resilience and grit are great markers of success!...Provided you can afford enough resilience and grit until you succeed! Lol

[–] deathbird@mander.xyz 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure grit + wealth is far better than either alone. It's really probably grit + wealth + connections + luck.

[–] NationProtons@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

Grift + wealth works even better.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hey now. That "emerald mine in apartheid South Africa" but is not true at all. He benefited from being the son of a rich white guy in apartheid South Africa. The emerald mine was in Zambia. He materially benefited from colonial rule in TWO countries.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago
[–] 10_0@lemmy.ml 24 points 4 months ago

That's how generational wealth works

[–] Gorillatactics@hexbear.net 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The only self-made man I acknowledge is Philip J. Fry.

[–] Doxatek@mander.xyz 2 points 4 months ago

Bet he didn't animate himself smh he owed his success to the story board artists

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

um ackshually Musk's dad was only part-owner of that mine, so we give this two pinocchios

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 months ago