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[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 105 points 6 months ago (5 children)

I won’t hold my breath on Apple using this. It’d destroy their upsell from 8gb process in one fell swoop.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 52 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Apple only do consumer friendly when forced by the EU.

[–] golli@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

And even then they'll think of the most malicious way to comply:

Forced to change the connector to USB C? Better only give it USB 2.0 speeds on the regular and Plus model.

Forced to allow third party app stores? Better give it as many restrictions and limits as possible. I assume/hope they'll eventually be forced to open up more, but they'll fight it for as long as possible.

[–] baru@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It’d destroy their upsell from 8gb process in one fell swoop.

There's a video where someone upgrades the memory of an iPhone by cnc'ing the existing memory chip. So basically using a drill to more or less drill the existing chip to get rid of it. Requires crazy precision.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What the fuck? Like its not even bga or some other kind of soldering?

[–] lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 months ago

So I guess it was UV epoxied after soldering and he put new epoxy on with the new nand. Or something along those lines but the component is soldered in a typical way. The rotary tool being used to pull out the residual phone glue is excellent and I feel like I learned something useful even though I'm never going to do an iPhone ram upgrade.

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[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 16 points 6 months ago (6 children)

They'd have to redesign their SoCs. The memory chips are right next to the SoC with the M chips.

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[–] pup_atlas@pawb.social 8 points 6 months ago

I could 100% see them offering user replaceable memory, but with a slower max speed than factory installed. Gotta have something to point to when the regulators come a-knockin.

[–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They could always lock in memory limits until you pay. But i don’t think they will anyway coz doing so won’t increase their sales.

[–] realharo@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If users have the "I can always upgrade later" option, that screws with the purchases of the higher end models "just in case I need it in the future".

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

Fun fact: You always use it in the future.

[–] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 42 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Good news I guess as I’ll never again buy a new computer which can’t be upgraded in the long term.

It ain’t my vision anymore and I hope more and more consumers think about buying second hand or buying upgradeable computers.

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

How about phones? They are a computer after all.

I'm in the proces of choosing a new one (forced by hardware failures of current one) a I hate having to choose all of its parameters with no possibility of any upgrade or meaningful configuration at the time of purchase.

[–] chalupapocalypse@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Shameless@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

I remember learning about this in the early 00's but then the textbooks were saying about this newer memory technology which the world has moved to known as DDR! Makes me feel so old now 👵

[–] rdri@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

I wonder if it means something for handheld devices like Steam Deck.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 months ago

Now let's see it on an sff PC mobo.

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

If you're a manufacture, what incentives LPCAMM2 gives you over soldering the RAM? With soldering, you can upsell the upgrades and force ppl to replace the whole machine every 1-2 years. How does LPCAMM2 benefits the company? I'm talking in general, not some niche manufacturers like Framework.

TBH, I don't think many will adopt this. Maybe it will show up in some expensive laptops like high end gaming and workstation, but majority of them wouldn't.

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