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BEIJING, Sept 13 (Reuters) - China announced details of its plan to turn coastal Fujian province into a zone for integrated development with Taiwan, touting benefits from increased cross-strait cooperation including financial market initiatives.

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[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This is some bipolar shit. One second shooting missiles at you and proclaiming that you will take Taiwan by force if necessary, next second talking about co-operation and mutual benefit. At least the CCP is transparent about their end goals I guess. Also, fuck the CCP.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Hasn't the US clearly established the waters around Taiwan being international waters subject to FONOPs and explicitly not territorial waters outside of the 12km limit?

China and Taiwan are aligned in their EEZ/territorial claims in the region (all the way down to the Spratly and Paracel Islands), so these missile launches would constitute only firing missiles from one point in their EEZ to another point in their EEZ without passing over airspace defined by territorial waters boundaries... Which, since as we've already established aren't territorial waters, is perfectly legal in the rules-based system.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's not the legality that bothers me.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 0 points 9 months ago

Oh, so it's a feels-based international order?

Until China and Taiwan deviate in their territorial claims, these operations are no less valid and no more provocative than the US sailing warships through the strait and conducting military exercises in the China/Taiwan EEZ claim.

[–] whitecapstromgard@sh.itjust.works -3 points 9 months ago

Doesn't Taiwan claim that they are the real China and have territorial claims on the mainland?

[–] MuhammadJesusGaySex@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Hey baby. You know I love you right. I mean I just want you so bad see, but I’ll never hurt you. All those missles I fired into the ocean. I never meant to scare you baby. I just, I just wanted to show you how strong my love is. You understand, right baby? Come on just give me a chance. After all if we live together, I don’t have to fly drones over to see what your doin baby.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 6 points 9 months ago

Trade between Taiwan and China is something like $270 billion. Taiwan is one of China's biggest export partners (larger than Russia, Malaysia, France, Brazil) and one of China's biggest import partners (literally the biggest, I think).

Cultural penetration is significant and bilateral mobility across the strait is very high. Anyone who seriously sees hot war as a possibility is delusional. At worst, we may see a Kennedy-style quarantine of Taiwan if too many US weapons make their way to the island.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


BEIJING, Sept 13 (Reuters) - China announced details of its plan to turn coastal Fujian province into a zone for integrated development with Taiwan, touting benefits from increased cross-strait cooperation including financial market initiatives.

At the same time, Beijing envisions "reunification" at some point and persists in crafting long-term economic and social plans for Taiwan, promising gains from increased trade and investment.

The statement said Beijing would support innovative ways of cross-strait capital cooperation and encourage the setting up of an integration development fund, without further details.

While seeking to enhance access for Taiwanese investors, China will also create a more "relaxed" environment for cross-strait travel, according to the statement.

Strait Innovation Internet Co (300300.SZ), a state-controlled firm in Pingtan, China's closest point to Taiwan island, saw its shares soar 20%, the daily upper limit.

Details of the Taiwan-Fujian development plan were announced just months before Taiwan goes to the polls in January to elect a new president for the next four years.


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[–] yumcake@lemmy.one -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Seems like a good thing. Helps lead towards a more sympathetic and symbiotic relationship and a stepping stone to peaceful relations between the two countries. Anything that gets them further from a hostile invasion is a step in the right direction.

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Honestly I don’t see China wanting to invade unless Taiwan declares independence. They would simply lose too much. Invasion is more about setting boundaries to what Beijing will accept rather than a concrete unification plan.

Aight I’m ready to accept my downvotes now.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago

Taiwan-China relations were downright friendly until 2016. Not really sure what's changed since then.