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Tesla, the electric car company owned by Elon Musk, has recalled thousands of its new Cybertrucks over safety concerns. 

It is because their accelerator pedals currently risk getting trapped by the interior trim, increasing the possibility of crashes.

The BBC recently spoke to a whistleblower at the company who had raised concerns over the safety of pedals of previous Tesla models.

Tesla has been contacted for comment.

The recall affects 3,878 Cybertrucks, which cost roughly $61,000 (£48,320), made between November 2023 and April 2024. 

"A trapped accelerator pedal can cause the vehicle to accelerate unintentionally, increasing the risk of a crash," the US Department of Transportation wrote in a notification of the recall.

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[–] markr@lemmy.world 99 points 8 months ago (8 children)

3,878 fuglytruks is the apparently the entire fleet. That is the really big story here. The fuglytruk is a flop. Nobody wants an 80k rust bucket.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 34 points 8 months ago (3 children)

No reasonable personwants one, but apparently there are thousands of morons with too much money that want an ugly novelty truck.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

I think MKBHD's (follow up?) review was probably the best take on it. He specifically did not review it as "a truck" and pretty much described it like an SUV where the trunk region is on the exterior the entire time.

Which I think is a vehicle a lot of people would want. Me and my buddies are sickos who go on multi day camping/climbing trips and would not want to leave all our crap in the open (stuff is either in a tent or locked in the car at night). But for the average person? Throw little timmy's football pads in the back or put a tarp over your fifty suitcases on the way to a hotel. And make sure you have an empty toolchest so people think you work for a living. Groceries are an issue but basically every truck I have ever had the displeasure of parking near just opens their passenger door all the way (almost always dinging the car next to them) and takes twelve minutes to load three bags.

But as an actual truck? it is dogshit. But also... Simone Giertz kind of created Truckla, the dream vehicle of every single millennial who knows what a Lowe's is: the El Camino. Form factor of a sedan/crossover but with a truckbed so we don't have to hold a hand out to keep the pipe from shooting forward and cracking the windshield when we stop. And it would have let them reuse almost the entire existing assembly line and designs.

[–] BlueCollarRockstar@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 months ago

I'm 40 and drive an 84 El Camino, you're spot on lol

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Groceries are an issue but basically every truck I have ever had the displeasure of parking near just opens their passenger door all the way (almost always dinging the car next to them) and takes twelve minutes to load three bags.

This just made me think of a great feature for all these cars with sensors nowadays.

Side door ding avoidance - as the door is opened if it detects its about to hit another vehicle, it will halt the door opening.

Of course now you need all the fancy tech in the door to halt the door but think of all dings saved!

One day maybe. One day.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Having computer logic to decide if you are allowed to open your door is how you get people drowning in their cars or getting heat stroke because they started a firmware update.

That said, this is very much the kind of problem that can be solved... basically the same way cabinets solve it. A few springs to increase the resistance so that you can't slam the door open. But that probably has issues with needing to close a door REALLY fast for Reasons.

Personally? I don't really care. Cars are going to get dings and those trucknuts are too weak to do any real damage. But the audacity I have seen from some drivers who slam their door open while on the phone and take ten minutes to put four bags in the passenger foot area. All while the driver of the car they just damaged is standing there and staring at them.

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[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The Santa Cruz is basically that. They took the Tucson and turned the trunk into a bed. I love mine, but it would be neat if it were electric.

[–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Agreed entirely. I live my SC and describe it as "for people who could get away with an SUV or hatchback but need a bed". Like I get to have more of a car (albeit big for a car) but the messy stuff doesn't get in the cab.

My bet is on Ford doing a mav EV before Hyundai does a SC EV though. Just glad to see more tiny trucks out there.

[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago

Should just get a Chevy Avalanche since they're almost as ugly

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago

Tesla: Recalls are easier and cheaper if you keep sales low

Taps forehead meme

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 8 months ago

Sadly it’s more of a production problem than a demand problem. I believe there are 100s of thousands of preorders pending. They are just hard to build to any decent standard. Or apparently impossible to build to even a basic working standard.

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[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 70 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It's ok they will send out a firmware update to make the brake the accelerator and the accelerator the brake.

[–] SomeoneElse@lemmy.ca 38 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Or move the pedals to the touch screen. So convenient!

[–] macarthur_park@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

Nah, just make it voice controlled.

“Faster. Faster. Slower. Slower. Slower! Stop! STOP! STO-“

[–] DocMcStuffin@lemmy.world 58 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I question whether or not Tesla will be around in 3 years. The Cybertruck has been one giant cash sink that has delivered a giant rusty lemon. They cancelled their latest consumer grade car. Their next product is robo-taxis and that's with a history of driver death from their self-driving tech. And the major car brands have caught up or are at Tesla's heels.

[–] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Tesla still has advantages like an extensive charger network and the appearance of FSD on the horizon to general consumers. People that follow EV closely know there are better options, but they're a minority.

Not to mention the fact that places like Lemmy give the company and its CEO never-ending free press and coverage.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago (2 children)

appearance of FSD on the horizon

It's been on the horizon for the last 7 years or so.

[–] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Thus why I specifically said appearance and also mentioned it was for the uninformed.

I don't believe FSD is anywhere close to commercially viable for Tesla.

Reality doesn't matter when you're selling an idea or image. Its really easy to get lost in our nerd bubble and think everyone else reads about this stuff every day.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I think fully self-driving cars are pretty much impossible unless all vehicles on the road are fsd, and reporting information to a single central network.

There's just too many interconnected variables that can cause cascading newton like chains of cause and effect. For example something as simple as a little bit of rain vs a moderate amount of rain has drastically different effects on the coefficient of friction of the tires and road.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, I think fully self-driving cars are pretty much impossible unless all vehicles on the road are fsd, and reporting information to a single central network.

In other words, impossible forever because there are plenty of legitimate road users that will never be self-driving, such as bicycles.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

"legitimate road users" "such as bicycles"

Not recognized in America.

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[–] capem@startrek.website 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

like an extensive charger network

To be fair, that "advantage" shouldn't even exist.

We shouldn't have different chargers for cars just like we don't have different gas stations.

[–] Hexarei@programming.dev 7 points 8 months ago

Thankfully lots of upcoming vehicles will be adopting the Tesla charging standard (it's better).

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[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

People that follow EV closely know there are better options, but they're a minority.

I don't think they're a minority of people that have considered buying an EV and don't impulse spend tens of thousands of dollars on a vehicle though.

It doesn't matter to them if the person who wasn't going to buy an EV doesn't buy a Tesla. It matters if the person who was going to buy an EV doesn't buy a Tesla.

[–] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Its not an impulse spend, its a lengthy history of hearing that Teslas are THE option for EV.

Normies who have seen or heard of Teslas for well over a decade now aren't going to be easily swayed by an upstart company or the latest Nissan Leaf.

Elon's image after Twitter in my opinion has done way more to dissuade potential buyers than anything Tesla itself or other car manufacturers have done.

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[–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

I'd argue the lease business carries them big time. But 2nd hand leases don't generate money for them .. they might get some spare change from subscriptions but their support has to carry over to older vehicles no longer providing profit.

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 53 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The recall affects 3,878 Cybertrucks, which cost roughly $61,000 (£48,320), made between November 2023 and April 2024.

This is a bit off topic, but the $61K RWD trim is "available in 2025", so the recalled vehicles are either the $80K AWD trim or $100K Cyberbeast trim.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The entire fleet, 80 to 100 thousand dollar vehicles, being recalled because they cheapef out on the fucking accelerator.

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If it was GM or Chrysler, I would also assume the stupid decision to glue a flat piece of metal to another flat piece of metal that people are going to stomp on was because glue is cheap.

This, unfortunately, is a Musk run company, so the real reason was likely hubris. Someone's over engineered solution getting axed for cost is the least likely reason. It's more likely that the man child in charge (or a hand picked manchildlett crony) thought welding / mechanical fasteners were beneath them and that the glue was actually a sufficient and elegant solution to maintain clean design or some other form over function reason.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 47 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I have two comments which I shall illustrate with the following images:

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Thanks to the innovative dome design The Homer has better visibility than most cars on the market

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Yeah but it's murder in the sun. Half your gas is gonna go to trying to keep the temperature in that thing under "sweltering."

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[–] bulwark@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm a Canyonero man myself.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The Canyonero at least looked like a plausible vehicle.

That episode was from 1998. If you showed someone a picture of a Cybertruck in 1998 and said that was an actual truck in 2024, they'd ask you when the nuclear war happened.

[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

The cybertruck legit looks like a video game from '98 that couldn't render enough polygons

[–] bulwark@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ya the Cybertruck does looks straight out of a dystopian future. Maybe it'll be popular when it's safe to come out of the vaults in 200 years.

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[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

The greatest trick Tesla ever pulled was convincing the world it was a car company and not a meme stock.

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 19 points 8 months ago

This headline is definitely a perfect encapsulation of the current state of all things Musk-related.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

what do you expect when you buy a memewagon. f’ing numpties, all of them, everyone involved from elmo down to the buyer.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Truly worthy of its title of WankPanzer. Although I would apply that to most lifted short-bed pickup trucks to be honest.

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 6 points 8 months ago

Love that there are so many apt nicknames for the techbrodozer.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 10 points 8 months ago

Who would have expected such a cheaply made hunk of steel to have safety issues?

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Aren't those things almost double the weight of a typical truck? That and 100% torque from a dead stop (because electric) is horrifying if it accelerates unintentionally. I always see this one guy cruising around every weekend in a dense shopping mall near me just to show it off. I can't imagine if that thing plows into a busy shopping area.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Roughly three metric tonnes, which is twice a decent-sized hatchback like a current Ford Focus

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[–] Veraxus@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Other articles are reporting that they used soap as a “lubricant”.

Like they’re Beoing.

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

Thr most innovative car manufacturer in the world. They are just pioneering new accelerator behavior. Musk truly is the visionary of the generation.

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Let us once again remember how Musk boldly state that he knows more than anyone alive about manufacturing.

[–] iamtrashman1312@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I fell asleep behind the wheel for maybe four seconds one time (the dreaded double clopen) and have had infrequent nightmares of being trapped in a vehicle that is uncontrollably accelerating ever since

The great thing about living in the future is that your dreams are daily becoming a reality

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