Meanwhile, this is just a normal day for travelers from developing countries trying to visit first world countries.
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Except PITA for brazilians to go to the US, not only we need to pay to make it we also need to present a bunch of documents, fill a ton of online questionnaires, wait in long ass lines and then hand over our passport to a foreign government for like a month just to get a tourist visa, which doesn't guarantee entry since the border agent can't just say fuck you and make you fly back (happened to my cousin).
Well... I'm never visiting Brazil, apparently.
The USA requires much more of Brazilians visiting the US. This is simple reciprocity.
These types of rules are typically to deter people trying to immigrate illegally. I know that's a hotbutton issue in the US, but does Brazil have to deal with a lot of people from the US, Canada, and Australia trying to illegally immigrate? Or is this purely out of spite because those countries treat Brazilians that way?
Yeah, countries often do reciprocal requirements to discourage either side from implementing them.
I understand the reciprocity.
Thing is, this was not okay when the US did it and it’s still not okay. Shame to see other countries learning the wrong lessons from the US’s mistakes.
That's not really my doing, dude. I don't have a say in it. Maybe neither country should make it hard for people to go for a vacation there?
I don't know about visitors, but I think that a number of countries require you to show that you can financially support yourself if you're in the country for the long run and not working.
In the long run, maybe. But this is for travelers, not residents.
But most people trying to illegally immigrate come in on a travel visa, and then they just don't leave. It's the easiest way.
Oh well?
Good. It's called reciprocity...
And that's the only reason why it's being done.
Does the Brazilian government have tight enough control over agents not to abuse this? I'm imagining how much easier it would be to identify ransom targets coming from abroad if a rogue agent was affiliated with a criminal organization.
Rich people don't have all their assets sitting as cash in a current account.
I’m pretty sure that’s the goal
Oh be careful, your xenophobia is showing.
By criticizing the xenophobia of the Brazilian government?
Explain to me how reciprocating how Brazilian are treated by other nations is xenophobia? Because that's what's happening here.
It’s not okay when other nations do it either.
My guy, I called you out on assuming the information would be used to extort people. Now you are moving the goal post so you don't have to feel bad about yourself, instead of doing that, reflect on the fact that you don't want to be that person and like everyone else you made a mistake and allow yourself to learn from it.
no
I haven't wanted to visit Brazil since a homestay student told us that pretty much everyone ends up becoming a rape victim before adulthood. I never bothered to confirm that because I wasn't about to challenge the words of a rape victim and eventually never thought about Brazil again apart from one time giant Jesus statue came up in a conversation.
I also base my opinion 215 million people on the perception of one person.
I am sorry about this student and what happened to them, but that's not true. The crime though (mostly mugging and pickpocketing), especially in Rio and São Paulo cities, is something to be concerned about.
Source: I am brazilian.