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After mentioning them somewhere in comments, I actually bought Shokz after years of sitting curious. There are a few brands that do them, so it doesn't matter what's the brand is. I bought what I've heard of and the cheapest model I could find at that.

So, what's the trick? As I'm cycling, walking and running a lot, I needed a headphone solution to be aware of my surroundings. They don't cover ears and don't actually emmit sound - they vibrate and make your bones serve as a membrane.

The obvious minus is that in a bus or other loud setting you can't hear shit. That's by design. And, logically but somehow absurdly, by shutting your ear with a finger, you can make yourself hear it okay. I did a full circle here, returning to the old headphones isolation problem, heh.

But what impressed me more, they do feel like some kind of a cyberpunk prosthetic. You can wear them all day and even the cheapest one that promises 6hr of activity lasts days on the idle. But as you call someone or watch a vid – here they are, with a little to no latency. Honestly, I feel like if there'd be implants, that's one of the basic ones we can try first. It's hands-free device with a bonus of being more stealthy and not isolating you from the world.

As a cheapskate audiophile who stayed with cords for a long time, I can say that the sound is okay. Keeping in mind that producers can't control the skull of a wearer, they can't nail the ideal sound, but I'm impressed with how nice IDM and metal plays on them - something akin to budget Senh, AKG and Audiotechnica. And unlike cheap Sony, they don't put up low freqs, that's a plus. BUT when I shared it with others, people in body reported less effectiveness due to thickness of skin and under-dermal stuff, so it's better to test it if you aren't skinny as a skeleton.

After being so open about plus sides, I'm to talk minuses. Since the software is proprietary, it doesn't have many controls and is very weird sometimes. As I bought a model that was for internal chinese market originally, it talked to me in Chinese, and it can only be switched to another language before any pairing, so only after unpairing I could've chosen English – and the same combination of button presses when paired was reserved to calling the last called number, so I fucked up a lazy weekend morning for a friend of mine calling them 4-5 times, damn it. Ah, and it supports dual pairing with a PC and a smartphone, but as I tested it this function worked weird and I sometimes manually disconnected them. Walking&working distance from a source device is around the second or third room, that fits most office and home listening cases. I could've probably wished for it to have an option to pick lesser distance since I don't usually have even a meter between my smartphones and them.

Ah, and going back to the bus problem - the obvious downside that you want to turn them to 100% volume that you don't feel, but your ears do. After the first day when I needed to move a lot in loud contexts and thus put them on max, I had a headache, because although I didn't register the volume, my head had a first row concert experience. So if you use these, keep that in mind too.

Have you tried them, is there a topic I haven't covered? As you can tell, I'm happy with them, so I would be biased. It's just with VR stuff, even from Apple, I feel like we underlook existing tech that already serves us as expander of our life experiences and powers.

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[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I wear these things constantly. I love them for running, and for work from home.

For meetings I feel my voice feels more natural with my ears open. I can pair my phone and laptop, and go from my desk, with music and or meetings, to my couch and watch a video on my phone, or go for a walk with an audiobook without even thinking about it. I regularly get 8+ hours out of them.

I do use my MacBook pros microphone, I've had comment from a coworker that the headphone mic sounds tinny to them, but they do offer one with a more dedicated mic.

On airplanes I put in earplugs, throw these on with some ambient sounds and sleep like a baby. Very easy. Same with mowing the lawn

Big fan.

[–] daq@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Which ones do you have specifically?

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

Shokz open run I think

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I regularly get 8+ hours out of them.

That's better than a lot of earbuds but if battery life for your bluetooth headset is important I don't think you can do better than these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B3JG7T4D/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

I bought a set Aug 2022 and I use them 8 hours a night at work for 5-6 days a week (lots of O/T shifts) and I still go over a month between charges. They sound pretty good, too.

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 6 points 4 months ago

I use these for cycling abs gifted my father in law a pair as he suffers from tinnitus and a few issues hearing

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I use cheap-ass ones I bought on AliExpress when I need to wear earplugs like mowing the lawn or using the snowblower.

They're doing the job at least.

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[–] amzd@kbin.social 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Heard a colleague be very positive about his Shokz so I thought I’d get some bone conducting headphones too, got the Phillips ones and I just can’t imagine they are the same quality because I’m not impressed. UX is super bad; buttons are hard to press and cause the contact points to move (which need to be pretty precise for me to be able to hear decently) so ok I just use the Bluetooth volume change. Also the volume of the voice announcer that says “low battery” every 15 seconds when you go below 20% battery is not relative to the devices current volume, so it just absolutely SCREAMS at you while you’re just chilling…. Would not recommend anyone with heart problems.

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[–] dexa_scantron@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

I have those exact ones and I love them; I use them for running and when I'm doing stuff around the house but still want to hear people getting my attention. I had a previous version that I also accidentally turned to Chinese but I just learned to recognize the different messages.

[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I had a pair I bought at big lots like 20ish years ago. They were pretty cool, but uncomfortable fitting around my big ass head. Positioning them was annoying and the sound quality wasn't the best. The novelty wore off and I wasn't using headphones nearly enough back then.

Lately though, I've been thinking about getting a pair again, as every time I put my sennheisers on, someone inevitably comes in to talk to me. Would be good at work for overnights too, where I have to be able to hear people out of their room/walking around. I'm sure the technology and fit has gotten better and I can afford ones that weren't on sale a big lots!

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[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 4 points 4 months ago (4 children)

How is the microphone for phone calls?

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I guess it varies widely. The one in mine is a complete piece of shit, so I have it set to use only as headphones.

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[–] TooLazyDidntName@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

People say they dont notice a difference between my shokz and my phone.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

I asked my friends a couple of times when we had calls and some Discord conversations. No problems reported even when I was on a windy street at that time. I'm yet to see the spectrogram of their input, but I listened to my voice messages and they were fine. Obviously, not an all-purpose mic that can record music, but with a range of freqs that covers our speech it works no worse than industry standard, with airpods, dots and others. I even used it, stealthly, to record some IRL talks, just in case, and the result was clear. Their not-very-noticeable nature helps it.

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[–] lapping6596@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I love my shokz. I first got them back when the brand was still called aftershokz. I live in the NE US and they can handle me running in the coldest, hottest, and wettest weather no problem.

To fix the main 'con' of sometimes wanting to close out the sound of the world I carry Loops Quiet ear plugs. Basically reusable silicon ear plugs.

[–] weew@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I played around with them, borrowing one from a friend.

They definitely have their use case, the most obviously being when you need to keep your ears open for traffic or whatever.

However, I felt that the sound definition was not great, especially for sharp sounds like cymbals. Everything felt a little muffled, and it couldn't hit highs or lows very well.

It's one of those "better than nothing" pieces of tech but not what I'd choose for pure listening enjoyment.

[–] dexa_scantron@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

They work better for podcasts than music. For music, they're better than a phone speaker but worse than cheapo earbuds in terms of sound quality.

[–] jenny_ball@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

I've tried everything and in the end i always go back to the trucker Bluetooth headset. on one ear, the other ear is open. battery lasts forever. sound is good and the other side hears you good too. doesn't fall out of your ear. looks weird i guess but i think everyone wearing buds and stuff looks weird too.

[–] uid0gid0@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I have the H2O Audio and they work pretty much the same. I got this pair for listening to music while I swim and they are fantastic for that. They last a long time on one charge and loading songs is easy as plugging it in to a computer. Another reason I got these is because occlusion sounds really bother me. I also carry some of those cheap foam earplugs for really noisy environments like plane flights. The foam earplugs don't have nearly the same occlusion sounds and they block enough noise that you can hear the induction.

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[–] Resol@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I'm sure DankPods made a video about bone conduction headphones on YouTube. He tested 3 different models from different manufacturers and... well, he had quite a lot to say about them, especially when comparing them to sunglasses that are also headphones.

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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 3 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Mileage may vary, but they tickle my ears when playing on high volumes. The sound quality also isn't great compared to similarly priced in-ears, let alone over-ears.

That said, they're great to use as a headset for work and videoconferencing and for other situations when you need to be able to hear.

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[–] snooggums@midwest.social 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

The sound is a bit weak compared to full headphones, and the lack of bass is accurate. In a quiet settting they are a nice way to hear sound similar to a boom box aince tou can atill hear the stuff around you.

The one thing I don't like, which also affects the sound, is that without an adjustable back it sits kind of weird and lays down on my neck. If I hold it up slightly in the back it sounds far better than resting after movement.

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