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[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 84 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Why won’t you celebrate the booming economy!

[–] Sabata11792@kbin.social 36 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I lost 20 pounds the last year or two by not eating thanks to the booming economy.

[–] shadowSprite@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'm down 40ish in a year. I mean, it's weight I've been trying desperately without success to lose for years, but eventually I'm going to run out. And then when it's 3am on a Tuesday and I'm lying awake mentally working through my budget for the 11th time that week I go "I've been stressed and skipped meals before and never lost weight, do I have cancer? Because I really can't afford that."

[–] ryan213@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 months ago

Wow, lucky! /s

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 33 points 7 months ago (4 children)

When the economy is bad, prices go up, wages stay low and we get fucked. When the economy is good, prices go up, wages stay low and we get fucked.

Seriously fuck the economy, it only benefits the 1% so why should I care? That's why you do the minimum the your job requires, don't ever give extra, don't be a "team player", cause come pay time there is no team

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Well, many conflate the economy with the stock market. To me, If wages are flat and people are hurting, the economy is not good. The stock market may look good, but if the middle class isn’t growing from the bottom the economy sucks. Like right now.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

But you can donate sick pay to a coworker who got attacked in a home invasion, or hurt in a car accident or needed a life saving surgery! You can even donate to a fundraiser for a coworker run by an employer announcing double the profits of 33 years ago and paying for fewer benefits than ever.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

That's why you do the minimum the your job requires, don't ever give extra, don't be a "team player", cause come pay time there is no team

I learnt that the hard way.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 43 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Pretty much nails it on the head. It feels dystopian, and social media makes it so much worse. How is everyone I know buying houses and going on vacations and going out all the time, when my yearly raises haven't kept up with inflation for 8 years now?

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

I believe it's related to how credit card debt is at the highest level it's ever been

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

It is dystopian. And in some ways it’s a return to feudalism. For a brief time — since the Industrial Revolution — people found ways to build wealth without acquiring a ton of land. Now in the past few decades we’re seeing people go back, heavily, into land as an investment. This trend started before Airbnb existed but now it’s accelerating like crazy.

Everyone knows that housing is scarce and that construction has slowed down dramatically. So everyone who can afford to is buying up all the housing because they know it’ll only skyrocket in value over time. This is bad not only because it makes housing unaffordable but because it locks up so much capital in a non-productive form.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 6 points 7 months ago

The capacity to buy doesn’t mean you can afford it.

The economy is built on debt and inflated valuations.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee -5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How is everyone I know buying houses and going on vacations and going out all the time,

Two things. First, it's not the dystopian nightmare you think it is. As you note, social media is making it worse.

Second is a lot of people live beyond their means, or are getting help from family to buy these things.

when my yearly raises haven’t kept up with inflation for 8 years now?

Should have started looking for a job 5 years ago. If you did and couldn't find anything, that explains why they feel comfortable not giving you an actual raise. If you haven't, best time to start is right now.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I've changed companies 4 times in those 8 years. I've changed industries twice. Food -> banking -> medicine. Trust me, my lack of funds is not from a lack of motivation and effort

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago

Sorry I didn't mean to sound like I was imply you were lazy. I'm really speaking from the position of someone who had to convince themselves changing gears was necessary before doing so. And absolutely glad I did.

That being said, one of the easier things to negotiate when leaving a job for another is getting a raise at the new company. "I like my current job and only want to leave for the right opportunity. It's hard to justify that if I'm not seeing a significant pay bump." That's where I've seen some of my biggest pay bumps.

[–] Chef_Boyardee@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

Yep, had to buy a house with my dad to achieve the American dream. I'll probably have to sell once he passes. I can afford the mortgage, but not the upkeep.

[–] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago
[–] N_Crow@leminal.space 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean. You can always do what the third world does and jump the hoops to live in a good country. Then you'll be able to have a safer, cleaner, healthier life where you can afford the basic necessities of life.

Hopefully people won't get mad and start passing lawes to harass the new people with the heavy american accent just trying to work, pay taxes and live a decent life.

Man, the irony is palpable.

[–] SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The people who can barely afford housing can almost assuredly not afford moving to another country.

[–] N_Crow@leminal.space 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm not talking about fancy living in europe. I'm talking about moving to south america where each dollar you have is 5x more so you can have a fresh start feeling like someone who just got a beefy inheritance. If you work distance to earn a wage in dollars you are set for life.

[–] SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Yes, and the people who CAN BARELY AFFORD HOUSING can not afford to move there. A large portion of American citizens have said that a 1000 dollar emergency would be devastating for them. These people would not even be able to save up to change their life like that even if they wanted to.

[–] eardon@lemmy.ca -5 points 7 months ago

But I thought higher wages were supposed to solve this problem?

Don't tell me landlords just raised rent to compensate...