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Using StartAllBack? No Windows updates for you, says Microsoft (www.xda-developers.com)
submitted 7 months ago by AnActOfCreation@programming.dev to c/technology@lemmy.world
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[–] pastaPersona@lemmy.world 124 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Pays 100$ for windows 11 pro expecting to not see targeted advertising.

“Play Candy Crush on the Windows App Store Now!” ad baked into the Lock Screen ffs why

[–] funkajunk@lemm.ee 29 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Buy an OEM key next time, I've never spent more than 20 bucks for Pro.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 68 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Or, you know, don't use Windows

[–] funkajunk@lemm.ee 21 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, I mostly use Linux. Unfortunately, certain games only run on Windows and you're stuck using it if you want to play those titles.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ah, anti-cheat problems? Feels like those are nearly the only ones that won't play nice with Proton nowadays

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Some work surprisingly well. Elden ring for example. The funny thing is when I close Elden ring in windows, the anti cheat splash page stays and I need to close it from task manager. In Linux it just closes by itself as it should.

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Isn't Elden Ring single player? Why would that need anti-cheat?

[–] WeebLife@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

There's PVP and CO-OP too.

[–] AbsurdityAccelerator@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

There are so many good games out there, I can simply skip the ones that don't run on Linux.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 9 points 7 months ago

Pretty much only ones that use an invasive, kernel-level anticheat. I don't want that on my system regardless.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 31 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Microsoft owns github. I wonder if there's going to be a purge of this kind of software from the platform coming down the pike.

I'm sure if they did that it would spark a mass exodus and the development of a viable alternative, but I've never seen those kinds of inevitable consequences stop a corporation from enshittifying.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago (8 children)

There are viable alternatives to GitHub already, especially if you need to host your own code.

Gitlab comes to mind.

Microsoft have actually been decent stewards of GitHub

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[–] strawberry@kbin.run 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

or just dont pay. run the right commands and you unlock windows frww

[–] funkajunk@lemm.ee 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] strawberry@kbin.run 3 points 7 months ago

shit I just copied mine from some website. bookmarking that tho

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

swwwt i lovw frww stuff

[–] strawberry@kbin.run 2 points 7 months ago

mw too

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure this is intended to block software thst could do things like remove Copilot and all the OS level advertising they keep populating windows with.

[–] kadu@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

There's a literal native toggle to disable Copilot so that'd be really weird.

[–] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 44 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Until there isn't a toggle

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's just a miniscule step of enshittification away.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago

Death by a thousand cuts.

[–] xyguy@startrek.website 35 points 7 months ago

There's a toggle

Becomes

There's a toggle but we moved it deep into a sub menu

Becomes

If you toggle it off it also breaks a lot of other things you want to have

Becomes

Toggle it off if you want but it's still going to run in the background

Until the EU sues and forces them to have an option to actually remove it.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 40 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The only update I want is going back to Windows 7 anyway. This crap they call a modern operating system is inferior to Linux and mac os.

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[–] generic@iusearchlinux.fyi 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I tried the Official Windows 11 start menu. I had disabled showing "recommended apps" in the settings. This hid the icons, but not the section. So, whenever I opened the start menu, the entire bottom half was a section that said "enable recommended apps to show them here."

That's when I installed Start11 (I also bought StartAllBack, but I preferred Start11) and never looked back.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

At this point I've just abandoned the start menu all together. PowerToys Run has effectively become how I launch anything that isn't on the taskbar, tied to one of the buttons on my mouse or a keyboard shortcut. Everything search on a different shortcut replaces the built-in search.

Of course that's just how I cope on my mandatory-Windows 11 work laptop. At home (and I know this is almost a meme at this point), I'm slowly getting myself accustomed to Linux alongside Windows 10 until that's no longer feasible.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Am I the only one that still using the file explorer to navigate to the folders I want?I've never used the start menu..only computer then Explorer

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 12 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Am I misunderstanding something or are you saying you dig into the program files every time you launch a program? I thought the OP was talking about programs not files and folder.

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[–] EarMaster@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Out of curiosity: How do you start programs? If a program is clearly associated with a file by opening the file from explorer I assume, but there are programs which are not file based (web browser, games, ...). Do you maintain a folder with shortcuts or do you navigate the start menu folder using the explorer?

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago

I launch the programs executable. That's it.

[–] restingboredface@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

I do this. All programs I access regularly are shortcuts on the desktop. Everything else I can get to with folders or launchers like steam.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

I've been a Linux Mint guy for the last ten years.

By default, the Menu is able to explore the file system. I turn that off. I want that for launching applications. I use Nemo, the file manager, for browsing and opening files.

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Glad I have no idea what this is. Thanks Proton

[–] AnActOfCreation@programming.dev 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

What does Proton have to to with this?

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 33 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You don’t need widows to game anymore (Proton the game software for Linux, not Proton the VPN/email provider)

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (13 children)

I'll switch once HDR support becomes mainstream in Linux. That and a Linux equivalent of AutoHDR (which is a Windows 11 feature that converts SDR videos and games to HDR). This is literally the only thing keeping me on Windows.

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[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton

Steam on Linux uses Proton to play Windows games. Ain't perfect, but perfect enough I don't need windows anymore.

[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 19 points 7 months ago

So it's just an added feature of StartAllBack - no more updating!

[–] Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

This isn't normal Windows Updates. These are warnings for OS upgrades as Windows Insiders upgrade to new preview builds of the OS.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago

Meh, I don't care, I'd much rather have startallback than updates as it's the only thing that makes that windows box usable.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago

i know you guys always hate to hear this, but this problem wont go away unless you can move to linux

[–] akakunai@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

WTF is the screen scaling set to on that laptop?

[–] tooclose104@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

100% but 3840x2160 and small taskbar icons?

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