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I've been on Wayland for the past two years exclusively (Nvidia).

I thought it was okay for the most part but then I had to switch to an X session recently. The experience felt about the same. Out of curiosity, I played a couple of games and realized they worked much better. Steam doesn't go nuts either.

Made me think maybe people aren't actually adopting it that aggressively despite the constant coverage in the community. And that maybe I should just go back.

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[–] skulkingaround@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

For about 3-4 years. I switched after sway added support for per-display VRR which xorg cannot do still (and probably will never be able to do due to core design limitations)

On AMD it's been better than Xorg for a couple years now in my use case. No more tearing and latency issues, any games that don't play nice have worked fine with gamescope.

With HDR support finally on the horizon it'll be able to completely replace windows for me which I already barely use.

The only issue I regularly encounter is programs handling windowing strangely. Some programs like to switch themselves into my active workspace under certain circumstances which is mildly annoying but just requires that I press the hotkey to put them back where they belong a couple times a day.

[–] fujiwara@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I tried Wayland out again last week and all it did was make my monitors flash white and black over and over again. Couldn't get it to stop unless I restarted. No idea how to fix that since I can't even do anything past the sign in screen lol. Maybe one day it'll work.

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[–] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

My Thinkpad touchscreens were useless until I switched to wayland.

The only drawback is I have to manually edit the qgis desktop file to start qgis with x11 instead of Wayland. I had to do the same to a couple other random experimental apps, too.

[–] invisiblegorilla@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I've switched nearly all my computers to Linux with wayland in the past 2 years with the last device coming over in the last couple of months.

I run a headless fedora/kde ~~/wayland~~ gaming desktop (with a nvidia GPU) which I use exclusively over steam links dotted around the house. That took a bit of tinkering tbh but flawless operation since. Edit: Turns out its actually still on Xorg. Still some work to do here getting this moved over. I forget why I didn't stick but must've been some combination of headless and steam link streams

I use arch/hyprland on my daily driver laptop and arch/sway on my work laptop.

The wifes laptop is also fedora/KDE on wayland.

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago

Wayland has been very stable for me since 2021, never went back to X.

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 9 months ago

Not yet. I'll give it another go when I get Plasma 6 (I'm on Debian, so either I'll switch to Sid or just wait a while).

Last time I tried it, it mostly worked, but mpv had some issues and missing features on Wayland. I haven't kept up with the mpv developments since then so I'm not sure if that's been addressed upstream yet.

[–] etbe@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago

For my home workstation running Debian/Bookworm I started running Wayland-Plasma when Xorg mysteriously refused to work after replacing my video card. Wayland just worked and really had no issues for me so while I'm sure I could have solved the X11 problem I didn't have a real need to.

I also changed my laptop to Wayland-Plasma more recently. A problem I had was in setting up the right modes for external monitors on laptops but that seems to work OK now. Generally things just work.

[–] Artopal@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I don't use Wayland. I can. I've tried, but I went back to X. On Wayland, when I take a Firefox tab out of a window to make it it's own window, there's a pause of over a second until the new window appears. It drives me crazy every time. On X it's instantaneous.

I don't use two monitors, I don't use Nvidia. For everything else I use my computer for, I haven't found an advantage of using Wayland over X. So, I'll stay on X until I'm forced to change, I guess.

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[–] CMDR_Horn@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago

Full AMD. KDE. Only one issue. I RDP into my work laptop, and sometimes I get weird artifacts on the screen until I minimize/maximize. Everything else is flawless

[–] backhdlp@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 9 months ago

I haven't used Wayland for about a week overall in my year of using Linux.

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't. And I will when it actually fucking works.

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[–] KrapKake@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I only use wayland on my t480 and it makes a noticeable difference on that machine, but not on my desktop with Nvidia. I have been testing it for a couple of days on my Nvidia box though. So far I've found it mostly works better than I expected but some games played on Nvidia+Wayland makes it look like my monitor is about to die with the weird flickers it does at times and under certain conditions (like loading screens it's unbearable), otherwise performance is good and seems to lock in at 144hz. Also does anyone know why there are no settings in the nvidia-settings app under Wayland?

[–] pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io 2 points 9 months ago

About five years with Wayland now. Started with sway and now running KDE Plasma 6. It is snappy, simple and definitely so good I will not miss X11.

(I also think systemd is cool, you can crucify me now)

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I use Sway exclusively on my personal systems. For work, I have to use Zoom, and you can't share your screen on Zoom if you're using Wayland. So I use xorg-server and i3.

Aside from Zoom, the only thing I wish would support Wayland better is ffmpeg. There are janky workarounds to make ffmpeg capture from Wayland, but they're... well, janky workarounds. If I abolutely have to capture video from my desktop, I switch to xorg-server/i3 long enough to do that then go back to Sway.

I'll switch to Wayland on my work machine when Zoom supports it. And I guess the ffmpeg thing, while unfortunate, isn't enough of a deal breaker to keep me from daily-driving Wayland.

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[–] UmbraTemporis@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

When my DE, Budgie, supports it. I'm not too bothered about using it, with a beast monitor and a high-end PC I hardly notice the X.Org quirks.

I'll take it as when Budgie is ready to ship a full Wayland-only experience, I'll be ready to use one.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago

I use multiple machines. On one of the core machines, I switched to Plasma 6 on Wayland when that was released. I used XFCE on X11 previously. It seems ok so far.

[–] MangoKangaroo@beehaw.org 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Been on it for about a year now, both with my desktop's A770 and my laptop's AMD iGPU. Experience has been pretty much flawless.

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 months ago

I've been using Sway on and off since 2020. Wayland always worked well as long as it supports the specific use case and the apps are doing the right thing (e.g. pipewire, portals, no Xwayland).

VRR with multiple monitors and HDR are likely the biggest reasons to use Wayland, as most other improvements are less noticeable. E.g. Sway always felt more responsive to me than i3 + picom, even with a single monitor in 2020.

If you have issues with applications not working well on Wayland, either wait for proper Wayland support or ditch them. For Steam this'd likely mean stay on X.org.

[–] awth13@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago

Have been using GNOME with Wayland on a dual GPU NVIDIA laptop for 2 years. DE runs on the integrated Intel card; Steam, games, anything that needs dGPU runs on NVIDIA. It’s been a smooth experience.

[–] ScottE@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

When I'm forced to, and not before then. X works perfectly well so there's no reason for me to switch to something else with less features.

[–] kib48@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

I haven't touched the X11 session once since I got my laptop, all Wayland

[–] DarthSpot@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago

Mid 2022, when i swapped my nvidia card to an AMD one. Instantly switched to Wayland (KDE Plasma) and stayed there.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 2 points 9 months ago

Tried wayland but it doesnt work on debian stable + kde + nvidia hickup-free yet. I will switch when a) the fixes come to stable and b) a need to switch arises.

[–] CarlosCheddar@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I switched to Wayland to get discord streaming with audio working but now Steam remote play has issues capturing some windows unless I open Steam with the -pipewire option. Other than these issues with video streaming it’s been almost the same ir better than x11 on my AMD machine.

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 2 points 9 months ago

No, I see no benefits

[–] Majestix@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Since maybe 2 years and i am very happy with it. Sometimes screensharing problems but thats it.

[–] cow@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I have been running wayland with sway for around 6-10 months (I forget when I switched). I have a 4-monitor setup and hated the default workspace management but swaysome convinced me to switch. I heard a lot of stuff about how manual tiling is bad but I actually don't mind it and kind of prefer it to automatic tiling from AwesomeWM which I used before sway, .

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I tried it a few times on different hardware. There were weird lags, freezes, crashes, latency, artifacts, flickering (once I had to reinstall the system to fix it), no cursor in games etc etc so no thanks. It doesn't work for me. Maybe it's possible to fix if I spend a week in the terminal but ehh idk. It's just not ready for me I guess. And I didn't even have enough time to find compatibility issues. I'm a little bit afraid that by the time Wayland is ready, a new system will already be required lol. It's getting better though so probably it will be ready for business/production in a few years idk. The only thing I can definitely tell is that it must not be the default on regular desktop distros now. Wayland may be good but it's not mature. Switching to it on the login screen is a 3 seconds task and it fixes so many issues, especially on older hardware

[–] chris@lem.cochrun.xyz 2 points 9 months ago

A year and a half? Basically when hyprland got good enough. I used to use awesome and needed something with similar pretty features.

[–] snaggen@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I know I have used it since Fedora made it default in 2016. I think I actually used it a while before that, but I don't have any thing to help me pin down the exact time.

Since I only use Intel built-in GPU, everything have worked pretty well. The few times I needed to share my screen, I had to logout and login to an X session. However, that was solved a couple of years ago. Now, I just wait for Java to get proper Wayland support, so I fully can ditch X for my daily use and get to take advantage of multi DPI capabilities of Wayland.

[–] burrito@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] snaggen@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago

That's why it felt very early to have used it before it was default, I mean before 2016 felt too early for me... But it was way before Covid, so I'd say around 2017.

[–] jfx@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I am dependent on a couple of programs I run via wine - and wine still isn't directly compatible with wayland and buggy with xwayland...

[–] headroom@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I though wine merged their wayland drivers?

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Seems to be behind an experimental flag at the moment but making great progress.

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2024/01/what-to-expect-from-wine-on-wayland-in-2024/

[–] jfx@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 months ago

Gretlat that they're making progress! aTM windows still flicker or fail to show content. I'd love to use it in production later this year maybe ...

[–] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 2 points 9 months ago

Since Fedora 35 or more specifically rawhide in the lead up to Fedora 36, so late 2021. Plasma Wayland session, it had some rough edges, but I found it tolerable. I understand some people wont put up with it, or find workarounds and that is fair. Its been good to experience it as it has matured.

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