That’s insane who in their right mind would dedicate their time to that? And what kind of dogshit company would openly allow that to happen! Glad we’re not there is all I’ll say

The question was about jobs.

I get both PoVs. For some, it's just a clock in clock out type thing they do just to survive and maybe pay for their other passions. For others, they spent a majority of their lives training, learning, licensing, and practicing a skillset to perform their work. It's fairly often a large part of one's identity and it's not a negative thing. Though it may be a negative thing to assume someone is only their job.

But I can hardly blame someone for seeing themselves first as a scientist, artist, lawyer, or whatever.

The higher up you go the less work you do and the more stress you take on. You're essentially trading your peace of mind for more money.

When you work a simple manual labor job you clock in and clock out and then go home and live your life. Work stays at the office.

When you're an executive or a business owner you're working 100% of the time. Something happens, you need to respond. Sometimes you need to make hard decisions where you're fucked either way but you need to minimize damage.

You need to find solutions to problems and that keeps you up at night. Don't have enough money for payroll next week? How you gonna do it? Not pay vendors this week? Take out another line of credit at ridiculous rates? Skip a payment on your rent? Equipment financing?

You have to do something- you stop paying your employees and the company falls apart very quickly. Could start a chain reaction of good people leaving, making the situation worse. The buck pretty much stops with you, you can't pass off the problem to someone else.

It's not easy to be in charge. Lot of blame rests on your shoulders if things go wrong.

Of course that doesn't mean they deserve 10,000x the salary of a regular job. I think CEO pay should be capped to some multiple of regular employee pay. Whatever that scalar value should be 2, 5, or 10 I think is debatable. But it should be capped.

"Running a business is hard work, you wouldn't believe the number of meetings-"

Oh yeah meetings where you and "experts" on maximizing profits talk about how many people you can get away with laying off this quarter and other meetings where you work out a deal to buy a competitor startup in order to immediately and intentionally run it into the fucking ground sounds really fucking essential to the world Allan

Small business owner here. Just to add to the other responses about the stress and responsibility as you move up that others mentioned here... I cover every one of my employees when they take vacation or sick leave. So I am often doing my job, plus another person's. It's not uncommon for me to work 12 hour days without breaks.

that's not a job, some people are just Assigned Cop At Birth

They don't take it seriously enough. They go play army man.

Brb gonna go try to hack the NSA so I have something else to be stressed about

It isn’t making the coffee that’s hard, it’s being on your feet for 8 solid hours while getting assaulted by a Karen every 30 minutes and playing the memory game of 3 pumps vanilla no foam cinnamon powder vinti super choco-latte. The coffee is just a minor part of the job.

Tell me you've never worked in hospitality without telling me you've never worked in hospitality.

You're that camper. Turn the music off.