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submitted 3 months ago by loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world

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[Image description : 4 Panel comic. Panel 1: A Dora the explorer ripoff wearing a fedora and with the fedora logo on her t-shirt is smiling at the viewer. The caption "Fedora the explorer" is over her head. Panel 2: She speaks to a vaguely anthropomorphic chameleon: "Hello Opensuse !" He replies : "Hi Fedora!" Panel 3: OpenSuse Says: "Someone has been using your code while not freely providing theirs despite the GPL licence!" Panel 4: Fedora "Hmmm... Who could it be?" A fox wearing a red hat emerges from a bush in the background. End ]

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[-] Guenther_Amanita@feddit.de 158 points 3 months ago

I really like that post!

It seems like OP put a lot of work and creativity into the meme, while intelligently criticizing a problem and not just using "Windows bad hurr hurr" as the base.

I wanna see more of those kind!

[-] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 30 points 3 months ago

Agree, tho this is a cartoon, which I guess these days might be a subset of meme, but wasn't always. Anyways, kudos OP.

[-] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 31 points 3 months ago

Thanks! Now, to defend the memeticity of my creation:

A cartoon can be a meme if it contains memetic elements that get reused across several memes by different creators (cf: the rage comics).

This comic contains text. Languages and alphabets are memes. Therefore, it counts as a meme.

Checkmate.

(Also, since "meme" comes from the greek word "mimeme" (to imitate), including an imitation of Dora the Explorer is also memetic; even moreso since it's been done many times)

(Also, given the way it spreads through sharing, copying and modifying, Linux can also be considered a meme. Since the sharing part is mostly through the internet, it fits an even narrower definition of "internet meme", therefore a cartoon about Linux can definitely be considered a meme)

[-] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 months ago

Sure, artist gets to choose... I guess this is an example of cartoon being a subset of meme then, on the internet even :)

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Not to be mistaken with lady Integra the Explorer, a once kinda famous movie star that regards herself as beautiful. Is also a zombie now, and (still) blue.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Yeah, where the cartoon series??

[-] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Have you taken a look at c/politicalmemes ?If a humorless poorly constructed wall of doomerism text lamenting the flaws of modern capitalist society counts as a meme, just about anything does these days

[-] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 months ago

Thank you!

[-] sirico@feddit.uk 83 points 3 months ago

An actual linux meme

[-] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 months ago

Un verdadero meme de Linux

[-] mmhmm@lemmy.ml 44 points 3 months ago

Where and how can I find more about Fedora the explorer. This universe is one I would gladly immerse myself in

[-] al177@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 3 months ago

Next week: Fedora meets a new friend named Lennart while on her way to Multiuser Mountain. Will they be able to cross the init bridge without being caught by Sammy the Systemd Hating Troll?

[-] shrugal@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

I'd watch that movie!

[-] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 months ago

Thanks, I just came up with it yesterday and I don't know if it's been done before, do I can't say if there's any other "Fedora the Explorer" content online. However I've done 4 or 5 other cartoons with anthropomorphized Linux distros or softwre, I've posted all of them in the linuxmemes Lemmy community and will continue to do so if I make new ones. (Some are of better quality than than others because there's one I've made with my phone and one I've made with a Thinkpad's trackpad...)

[-] BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 3 months ago

Amazing

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah, someone on Lemmy has remembered about OpenSuSE

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago

Omg right?

I was excited just for that, but then also the comic made me laugh as its actually really well made.

[-] kalpol@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

There's at least two of us

[-] ShortFuse@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

OP, can I get a tagged version of this so I can freely send it around while properly crediting your work?

[-] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 months ago

Thanks! I'm not used to tagging my memes, and I wouldn't have minded you sharing it without tag, but it's a nice idea! Here, I put my username on it (it's pretty much the same I use on Newgrounds, Tumblr and Mastodon, though I don't have a big following on any platforms and I haven't posted that specific meme anywhere but here for now).

signed meme

[-] einlander@lemmy.world 23 points 3 months ago

Fedora no swiping!

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 28 points 3 months ago

Red Hat is the swiper here

[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 14 points 3 months ago

RED HAT DON'T TOUCH THAT

[-] fl42v@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 months ago

Wasn't it like they still provide their sources, but not binaries, which (while generally being a dick move) doesn't doesn't contradict the GPL?

Or have I missed something?

[-] BaumGeist@lemmy.ml 27 points 3 months ago

Afaik the issue is that they made their code "open" source in the way many for-profit companies do: they require a subscription before you have access to the code.

If I understand the GPL correctly that doesn't violate it, since it only requires that the users have access to the source and not the general public.

[-] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The part that really makes it possibly infringe on the GPL is when you combine it with their user terms: It threatens terminating service to customers who get the code and share it. The GPL is supposed to guarantee that the rights of sharing the source code, and RedHat impedes on this freedom. I think his article breaks it down pretty well: https://opencoreventures.com/blog/2023-08-redhat-gets-around-gplv2-license-intention-with-contract-law/

[-] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 3 months ago

Microsoft did a similar thing with GPLV2 software. That's one of the new things in the GPLv3, you camnot enforce source code restriction by thirdparty subscription agreements

[-] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 6 points 3 months ago

No. They closed their sources to subscribers, which in itself would be fine, but the terms of service contain a clause forbidding redistribution of the sources by subscribers, at the penalty of termination of the agreement.