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[โ€“] Asimo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I don't think so in the cure of god as a single being.

I think there's possibly some phenomenon maybe linked to quantum entanglement where everything in the universe is more linked than we realise and there's some sort of awareness in that.

The pagan belief of nature as a God is probably the closest to something I'd agree with rather than modern depictions of god.

[โ€“] Carighan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, and as far as I can remember I never have.

I should add that my parents consciously decided not to make me grow up with adult santa claus as part of my life. The idea was that once I'm old enough to decide (somewher 14-18) I can decide for myself. They haggled out a deal with my school where I was free to sit in with varying religious education classes to compare. Eventually having a chat, I was by then big time disillusioned by how little sense everything made, and while at the time I could not understand how my friends could take this nonsense as anything even remotely true, I also knew I could not takei t serious.

So, here I am. Still no adult easter bunnies for me. ๐Ÿ˜… I mean, I get why some people find it a useful thing to cling on to in times of desperation, but then I would also say that that is no different than the grifts Theranos or homeopathy or so were/are running. You just milk money out of people's grief, desperation and loneliness. Because of how low the barrier of entry is to most of our religions (after all, our parents make us start with it by default ๐Ÿ˜ข), the buy-in is so low that most people never actively notice this part. Maybe I had it easy, since I would have had to climb that barrier first.

Do I believe in any higher power in general? Well, no. A bit of a shame, I know. But I doubt the Twelve from Final Fantasy are all that real; cool as it would be to meet Nald'Thal or Menphina because of their kickass fight-themes in FFXIV.

[โ€“] jcit878@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I used to be a pretty devout catholic but went through the whole crisis of faith. So these days, no.

I still wonder a lot about before the big bang, or wherever the actual "start" of everything was and what sparked it or made the energy exist in the first place, but I don't want to just hand wave it and say God because we don't have an explanation. But its definitly something I ponder

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Not at all, nor anything supernatural. I was raised evangelical and it really soured me on religion period, and I'm still trying to unlearn many of the harmful teachings. Luckily my SO was of the same mind so I'm eternally grateful for it; that kind of thing can destroy a relationship.

[โ€“] Dirk@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I absolutely do not.

[โ€“] OnopordumAcanthium@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I used to be an atheist basically my whole life. Since a few Years, i've got the feeling there's definitely something bigger than us.

So basically, i don't believe in a god. But i believe there is definitely something bigger that we'll never grasp to understand. A single cell in our body couldn't even get near the concept of what a human is.

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Yes, even if not really in an established denomination (despite going to church).

Well, I understand most religions as populous weapon systems to use as a tool for moral manipulation.

USA loves this shit but even uses these tactics outside of the confines of religion, it's why (some) gun owners feel the need for more fire arms to use agenst thier government, they are convinced it will help them fight back! When in reality the USA government won't use fire arms to stop you lol.

And if you just spend some time learning about geology and how solar systems are made, you will quickly find that ya all of these things work just fine independently on their own and don't need and guidence, most humans will say "hWo dO yoO tHinK maDe tHoSe eLemEnTs???"

Imo that answer might be beyond the short time frame humans will exist.

[โ€“] Dkarma@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

God? What a preposterous idea! I believe in aliens, Lister!

[โ€“] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

In any specific god? no. What I believe is that we don't know and will never know anything beyond our own existence. We don't know what we are, in the grand scheme of things (or if there's a grand scheme at all). We don't even know if we actually exist.

I just live my life to the best of my abilities and shrug off all that "beyond my existence" stuff as pointless. If I tried to think about it, I don't believe I would ever come anywhere close to a real answer anyway.

[โ€“] artvabas@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Only if he is a DJ!

[โ€“] vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

No, but I wish God was real.

Humans are not evolved enough past our selfishness. If we all lived believing that our actions are being judged by a benevolent father figure, we'd have less people screwing each other over.

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[โ€“] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Nope, I don't need to believe in make believe.

[โ€“] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

Absolutely not. Though the best question would be: Which one? There's hundreds, if not thousands in history.

[โ€“] steakmeout@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[โ€“] SmoothSurfer@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I think what "god" does mean for me, you and others are different. Also same goes for "believe" and "you". I believe, these kinds of topics are way out of our minds' league and even we could comprehend and discuss those things(god, reality, logic etc.) we still would be using wrong tools like language and our current logic system. So both the tools we use, and our intelligence is not enough to answer this question.

But still, if you want a yes or no answer; I would say no without hesitation.

[โ€“] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I believe that God is man's creation, but that it has escaped control by man and morphed into a phenomenon that has an existence and an impact on the world regardless of the literal truth of any one religion. An inversion of the Christian creation story, where God created man and then man got out of pocket. The realm of belief where gods could potentially exist is a place where empirical truth is sort of irrelevant, and what is useful holds more sway.

There's a scene in the Illuminatus trilogy that pretty well summarizes my beliefs regarding the supernatural. Spoilers ahoy, you've been warned. It's a rather ridiculous scene, the presumed protagonists Simon Moon and Hagbard Celine have just summoned the goddess Eris to help them do battle with a lake full of Nazi zombies. She emerges as a 50 foot tall bucket of whoop ass and just starts cleaning house. Simon looks at Hagbard and says something like "I could swear you told me that she was just a metaphor for the creative force in all of us" and Hagbard replies "That's what she is when that's what we need her to be. Today we need her to be a Nazi-punting giant."

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