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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 48 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Hey fair enough, it's complicated to keep updating for old platforms, and I'm sure those diehards will be fine with the versions that run right now.

The Rockstar Games launcher received an update today which makes it no longer possible to open games if you’re using Windows 7/8.

Fuck right off, you thieving bastards.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why would they even spend time doing this, doesn't windows take care of compatibility?

[–] moon@lemmy.cafe 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

New window versions try to be compatible with old versions. The older ones can't become compatible with the newer ones

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It was already compatible though.
Edit: nevermind. It's because Windows stopped supporting those versions, and with no new security updates devs won't support them either.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Usually that ends up with Devs saying "if you have issues on these platforms we will no longer support you in fixing them and it will get no more updates from us". Sadly this is then going out of their way to stop people with old OSs from playing their games, even though they would still technically run.

Now if people want to use an old Os, for whatever reason, they will now have to pirate those games even if they do own them. And that itself is what would put those users to risk when using an old OS is they don't know where and what to download safely.

[–] imecth@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Sadly this is then going out of their way to stop people with old OSs from playing their games, even though they would still technically run.

There's not necessarily any malicious intent. Some features require breaking backwards compatibility.
Supporting old platforms is bad for everyone, it locks out stuff and takes dev time. People need to learn to update their OS.

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.de 4 points 7 months ago

That is why you put that remark there and then start disregard breaking the games I'm those versions as an issue to be fixed.

If they continue to work, good for everyone. If they happen to break them at some point, tough luck, but not a problem.

Actively stopping the games from running is terrible and entirely unnecessary though.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The old OSs don't need to be able to run new updated versions of the game though so they didn't have to fully gate out them running of the game on an old OS.

Also even though 7 and 8 currently don't really have any nostalgia going for them, they eventually will. It's nice that I can have a secondary PC with XP and Vista to play era-relevant games on to bring me back to when I used to use them myself as a kid.

It already annoys me theres a lot of XP games that are sadly locked behind Steam that I can no longer play on that machine. I could just play them on my normal gaming pc but when im on that I'd rather just be playing something else, if you get what i mean.

[–] imecth@kbin.social 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

In these days of GAAS they won't let you run old versions of their games because of $. They want you tied to their launcher, advertisements and whatnot.
There's just no reason not to update your OS. Old devices run perfectly well on linux with its lower memory footprint. Running an old, unsupported OS and connecting to internet is asking for trouble.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The security issues of being connected to the internet on old OSs is wildly blown out of proportion if you just browse the internet safely and know exactly what you're downloading or just download files on another note secure device/OS

I'm not arguing that someone should have their daily driver be an old OS. This is for playing games or using software on the era relevant OS. Think like playing an actual N64 vs emulating on a Switch.

[–] imecth@kbin.social 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There's no such thing as using the internet safely.
Packets you send can be intercepted.
Websites you browse serve ads with malware.
You can be hacked.
All of these are made easier on outdated OSes.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

I don't go on any old random website when on an old OS and I always make sure to use a modern browser designed to work with said OS to allow safe browsing. Like MyPal for XP

[–] moon@lemmy.cafe 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Old platforms are not a viable platform worth supporting. That's why they're old. This is different from old hardware support, like where Linux supports older hardware really well. Linux still does not support old versions however.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But this is not a case of the games now unable to run, they specifically gated out old OSs from running a game they could otherwise run. They don't need to support the games anymore for old platforms, and they could still run on them at the users discretion.

[–] moon@lemmy.cafe 1 points 7 months ago

they specifically gated out old OSs from running a game they could otherwise run

This is a huge assumption. They release updates very frequently, and I'm sure they're eager to dump that legacy code.