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[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Old OSes aren't inherently unsafe though. You can safely use XP online if you know what you're doing. You literally just have to be a bit more careful about what you download and where. Thankfully with places like archive.org it's much easier to not have to go to the dodgy download sites of old to get your abandonware and whatnot.

[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Win 10 was a free upgrade for what, 4 years? If you're still on 7 you asked for this.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you're still on 7 it's because 10 is a frustrating mess of spyware, failed tablet schemes, and surprise forced updates. The free invitation to an aggressive downgrade was not a positive. My 7 machine installed a new goddamn operating system by itself at the peak of "10 is free!!!" malvertising, and the first thing I did was change it the fuck back.

Still - switch to Linux already.

[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you're still on 7 it's because 10 is a frustrating mess of spyware, failed tablet schemes, and surprise forced updates

If you're still on 7 it's because you're dumb. Move to 10, buy a Mac, switch to Linux, whatever. There's no valid reason to stay on an unsupported OS on a goddamn gaming rig.

Still - switch to Linux already.

Ubuntu 9.04 released the same year as win 7. It was supported for 5 years, vs win 7's 14 years. Yet you don't see anyone bitching and moaning that third party devs aren't supporting it anymore. Strange, huh?

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Support's not the issue - functional software was just yanked away. This game worked fine last week. Up-to-date and everything! Do these people get the choice to stick with that version? Do they fuck.

Nevermind that as long as your OS works for gaming, that is in fact a valid reason to keep using it on a goddamn gaming rig. Y'know. For gaming? Which it worked for? Until just now? It's obviously not the best decision, but you can stop pretending there's no reason to stick with the last properly good version of Windows. Cons outweighing the pros doesn't magically mean there are no pros.

[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

functional software was just yanked away

It was updated. It wasn't yanked away, it still works fine on modern OS's. It's silly to assume devs will continue targeting an OS that is out of support and irrelevant. Do you expect it to run on DOS too?

Nevermind that as long as your OS works for gaming

It doesn't, lmao. That's what this article is about. Also, if your unsupported OS gets compromised and integrated into a botnet, now your dumb preference is everyone's problem. You're the technological equivalent of an anti-vaxxer.

the last properly good version of Windows

8 and 8.1 were significantly more stable and performant than 7 and did not include the ads or spyware that is in 10. They failed because babies didn't like the way they looked and threw a tantrum about it instead of just installing classicshell.

Cons outweighing the pros doesn't magically mean there are no pros.

The only pro you've mentioned is "I WANT IT I WANT IT I WANT IT". Rockstar doesn't give a shit what you want. They want to stop wasting their devs' time accommodating a dead platform.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You're not listening and you're not being honest.

[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Running an unsupported OS on the public internet is like refusing the covid vaccine and going to work with a fever. Would you listen to someone who does that? I wouldn't, because any justification they come up with is going to be pants on head stupid.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And that means this game didn't work last week.

[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Game works fine if you're on an OS from the last decade

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes.

It did.

It could still, same as it does right now. The downsides of running that OS do not change this fact.

Until just recently, it was obviously feasible to use Windows 7 for this modern game. Unlike MS-DOS. Unlike your insulting dismissal, pretending 'waah I want it' is anyone's argument here. Because apparently you can't deal with the difference between 'the reasons aren't good enough' and 'there are no reasons whatsoever,' so you just call people babies.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm not arguing that 7 or 8 should be someone's daily driver but if someone wanted to use 7 or 8 for specific games because they have nostalgia of running them on those specific OSs then they're shit out of luck unless they want to get weird with it (like I currently do for some games on XP and Vista currently on my secondary PC).

[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's a very narrow edge case that only applies to hobbyists. Luckily, those are exactly the sort of people who have the time and motivation to figure out how to get this working. It's not like being unable to play gta4 on a 15 year old machine is going to negatively affect your life, if you want to play it that bad use a modern machine.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

Fair enough. I still think it sucks when companies do this though.