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Dell Glover manufactured CDs for a living, but he began to wonder: if the MP3 was just as good, why bother with the CD?

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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 43 points 9 months ago (2 children)

With that headline, I thought it was going to be about Simon Cowell or the CEO of one of the 3 corporations that own the rights to all music..

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The music scene was the one single thing the UK had left

Simon Cowell will rot in hell with a burning chicken shoved up his colon

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

A full English is the best breakfast there is, so at least you still have that..

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Full Scottish but point taken

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What's the difference between the Scottish and the English?

I'm speaking specifically about the breakfasts, mind you, not the people 😁

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Square sausage. No kidding either

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

It lacks grits. Properly done grits make an English Breakfast that much better.

[–] rishado@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I had no idea. Next you're going to tell me that indie MOVIES exist, or some such nonsense.

[–] CrystalEYE@kbin.social 31 points 9 months ago
[–] taanegl@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

My god. Corpo propaganda, here we go. HERE WE FUCKING GO!!

Let's make this absolutely clear, piracy of any kind, including music, is no longer unethical. Why?

Who owns the majority of musical intellectual property out there? The artists? Gtfo here with that bunk. If you got signed by anyone, chances are that you've lost any right to royalties, because it's been absorbed by the publisher or the studio.

Why don't they own it? This is a careful reminder read contracts and know that unless you've got an army of lawyers, you will in some way, shape or form get screwed.

Then you have Spotify, whom you pay to publish your music and you probably won't see a single cent of it back, because that is Taylor Swift's money.

Most artists and bands make their money two ways:

  1. Shows
  2. Merch

That's it. Other than that, market precedent set by predatory publisher's makes it so very, very few musicians make money off publishing.

So put it on SoundCloud, upload it with CC Attribute Non-Commercial and give it out for free. Then your music is more widely available, and if someone wants to use it commercially, you want a standard contract at the ready that is non-negotiable.

That is if you follow Hollywood rules, in that you don't want "from the profit", but for net gain. Why? Because these mfs cook the books to make sure they don't have to pay you squat.

And this is fair, since you're expected to be your own content creator, marketing department, etc. You do all the work, but some asshat who networks that work is supposed to make the big bucks?

Fuck off, you and your New York lawyers. Fuck all of em.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The game is very very much rigged. Most concert halls for example won’t even agree to allow a band unless it’s signed with a record label. So even if you’re super popular on by giving away your music for free, the game is setup to force you into a contract.

[–] taanegl@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

And let's not forget TicketMaster, the overseer of stages.

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago

Long read, but really interesting bit of music history

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Missed opportunity for his parents to call him Danny. Then he could say "I'm getting too old for this shit".

[–] DrBob@lemmy.ca 14 points 9 months ago (3 children)

That line appeared in "To Live and Die in LA" in exactly the same circumstances two years before "Lethal Weapon". TLaDLA also had the first wrong way car chase that's now a staple of every action movie. It's funny how it was so influential in the industry but has so little lingering cultural impact.

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for sharing

[–] Gregorech@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

That movies unexpected turn in the third act messed with my head.

[–] konalt@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't expecting such a long read. Definitely interesting!

[–] nivenkos@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Read How Music Got Free - it's a book based about these same events.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 7 points 9 months ago

TL;DR: It's about the warez "scene", specifically about music pre-releases. A decent read, but one you may have seen before.