On one hand, that sounds obviously good, on the other hand, how easy is it to end up on the Sex Offender list? In America, hooking up in your car will land you on it for life
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Peeing in an alley will, too.
What? How? why?
It's always a question of where you draw the line. Two consenting adults hooking up (whatever you interpret that to mean, I'll assume that the adults are unclothed for simplicity), fine. Being in a car, fine. Hooking up in the private confines of your house, fine. Hooking up in public, not fine. Is a car considered a private location? I guess if someone sees you then no it is not. Hooking up in a camper would be fine. If you put up blinds on the windows of your car does that make it fine? What if you're parked on your own property? What if you're in your garage? What if you are able to find somewhere to park where someone would have to deliberately be trying to see in to see you? There is some case law already pertaining to being naked in your own home. Local laws may be different but are probably similar.
It is quite subject to the officer of the day and the whims of the court system.
I'd say fucking outdoors is ok if the fuckers put in effort not to be seen or intervening with the daily lives of others. Anything beyond that is the responsibility of the potential onlookers.
Imagine living in a world where it's illegal to fulfill the most basic human needs outdoors.
Legislatures are encouraged to make sure the line is as broad as possible, because there's frequently stories of actual rapists and child abusers pleading out of sex offender registration. When the evidence is muddy and the prosecution doesn't want to chance it at trial, but has enough to nail them for something, frequently sex offender registration is a big bargaining chip.
Thus in many states, public urination is a sex offense.
My defense would be "you may find urine sexual your honour, but I'm not a freak like you, so this isn't a sexual crime".
It's often not the judge's discretion, is the thing. Any person duly convicted of crimes under xyz statutes (i.e.: public indecency/public urination) shall be listed, so the court/prosecutors can massage it to disorderly conduct for a cooperative defendant or whatever.
I’ve heard people from america getting on the registry just because of they are HIV positive.
I didn't realise dogging was that risky over there.
It brings questions like how do you clear your name if you're once a sex offender? Why do we release those people back to the wild if we do not believe that they can change?
In the UK the sex offenders register is used to prevent such people working with particularly vulnerable groups. Otherwise, they are 'back in the wild' once they have done their sentence
It has some unintended and bizarre implications.
Take the scenario of some guy who goes out dancing, having a great time with their preferred sexual partner on the dance floor. On the way home stops in the park for a wank because they're single, young, drunk, horny and stupid.
They get caught, they're on the sex offenders register and they're banned from working with children or vulnerable people. And yet they're not more of a threat than the average person, certainly not a paedophile.
(If that looks suspiciously specific, it's not my story 😁)
Who can't make it home before having a wank? That seems like a whole different physiological issue.
It was a hypothetical example for purposes of illustration, not a suggestion for the weekend
Doesn't even need to be a wank. Just having a pee out in the open at a park is enough to get you on that registry.
sex offenders register
It sounds like it's more persistent than blockchain
And what is a sex offender? I know someone that got a sex offender charge for peeing in a bush...
I mean, they could still work at non-childcare jobs, or at least can here in Canada.
In general it's a good point, though. Westerners in particular seem to want their cake and to eat it too. Execution and indefinite incarceration are both inhumane, but they also don't want a guy who's openly a rapist anywhere near them in any context. Locally, reformable people are most of the prison population, but I do wonder what I'd do in the shoes of somewhere like El Salvador.
The vast majority of them don't change, no matter how much they say they will.
And you know that how?
sees 'back to the wild'
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Wow, I wasn't aware they weren't already doing that. Good for them.
I'm surprised but not surprised that wasn't already law there.
Yeah, negl, it’s kind of infuriating to see people worried about the poor people who just made a mistake and somehow end up on a sex offender registry, and not the fact that the reason this is happening is because children were SA’d by people who had been able to sign up with a baby sitting service.