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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 55 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I've said it before and I'll say it again:

Shit like this needs immediate reaction.

Biden refusing to take action against Texas is just emboldening them and other states.

He needs to invoke title 10, ideally ued have done it as soon as the letter was released.

It doesn't matter what the law says if a significant amount of the guard refuse to acknowledge it.

I don't know how anyone can believe they'll all just do the right thing, stop overestimating conservative nutjobs

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 36 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Listen fash, you can apparently waste Florida taxpayer money in your performative bullshit as much as you want, but the second one of your goons impedes a federal officer, they are donezo & you won't be able to do a damn thing to save them.

U.S.C. 18: 111

This statute outlines certain types of assault against a federal officer and the appropriate charges and penalties. Penalties for Assaulting or Resisting a Federal Officer A simple assault of a federal officer carries a $100,000 fine and up to one year in prison.

For example, simple assault is forcibly assaulting, resisting, opposing, impeding, intimidating, or interfering with federal officers while performing their duties. As noted, physical contact or injury is not required for a conviction.

Simple federal assault is a Class A misdemeanor that carries up to 1 year in jail and fines of up to $100,000.

(b) Enhanced Penalty.—

Whoever, in the commission of any acts described in subsection (a), uses a deadly or dangerous weapon (including a weapon intended to cause death or danger but that fails to do so by reason of a defective component) or inflicts bodily injury, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 21 points 7 months ago

Bold of you to assume the law will be enforced against fascists.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Florida can probably mostly do what it wants with its state guard, but Abbott is using the National Guard for this nonsense and their loyalty is to the president before the governor of the state of Texas. That is in their oath.

I, ________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and of the State of ______ against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to them; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the Governor of ______ and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to law and regulations. So help me God.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/32/304

They are called the NATIONAL guard for a reason.

[–] PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes, exactly this.

The National Guard belongs to the respective DOD branch and can be activated for federal duty by order of the President of the United States. Failure on the part of leadership or members to do that will have extremely negative consequences - the end of a military career and likely jail time in a very unpleasant prison. As part of the US military, they are part of a large organization which will enforce consequences. It’s not something trivial.

Abbott can use state troopers or Texas rangers or whatever, but if Biden orders the Texas National Guard into federal service, then Abbott and the Texas police will be put into a position of facing the US Army.

Florida has its own “guard” unit in additional to the Florida National Guard because DeSantis wanted brown shirts, but again they’d have to think it’s an important enough issue to face the US Army, and the group is really just a private DeSantis Proud Boys unit.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 9 points 7 months ago

I would love to see Assface deploy his Flo-derr brownshirts only for them to end up in Leavenworth for a nice long stay. You know some of those idiots are guardsmen themselves.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago

So the State of Florida is invading the state of texas?

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 17 points 7 months ago

Giallombardo said if the bill passed the Florida State Guard would only be deployed to other states based on mutual agreement, commenting: "They can't just send [the guard] into somebody else's state without the state asking or the state knowing."

Translation: we have to normalize the concept a couple times first before we do the thing we explicitly said we wouldn’t.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 15 points 7 months ago

It’s like the avengers of assholes assembling at the border.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 14 points 7 months ago

Governor Babbott wants the state guards to be able to shoot migrants at will. I guess just murdering kids by letting them get skewered with razor wire and drown isn't fast enough for him.

The time is quickly approaching when Texas will be firing on migrants and killing them without mercy right left and sideways. Mark my words.

[–] ganksy@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

Quickly immigrants Florida is now open!!

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Wouldn't this count as insurrection or rebellion? Feels like there is a lot riding on the SCOTUS ruling on the 14th amendment.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 11 points 7 months ago

Cool, they can be federalized or arrested too.

[–] DharkStare@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

When are we going to start arresting all these traitors? Letting them do whatever they want without consequences only encourages them.

[–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Please don't give this dipshit attention to these types of press stunts.

No, he will never do this and the only value here for him is people talking about it. That's it, so don't.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Ron DeSantis should be in the front lines!! Maybe they could dress him up in some extra extra tall high heels so he can see.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

This is absolutely not what Trump wants even if his fans do because Trump wants to brag about winning the election and fomenting some sort of national insurrection before the election is not going to get him those bragging rights.

And Trump lives for bragging rights.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Please do. This is a shitshow I'll watch with much glee.