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Migrated from Windows to Linux. Decided to share list of answers/statements I was looking for before did it (and could not find). (lemmy.world)
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Finally migrated from Windows to Linux. For anyone wondering, what is the state of Linux as your primary OS for home PC\laptop in 2023.

I've finalised my Archlinux installation yesterday, I dropped of Linux more than 10 years ago and experience in 2023 in comparison is awesome and beyond even wildest dreams back then:

  • For average user looking for more out of the box experience I would suggest something Arch based (people in comments suggest EndeavourOS, please do your research). Archlinux installation took me quite some time
  • Almost everything works out of the box, by just installing corresponding package
  • KDE Plasma environment is fast and beautiful
  • Pipewire audio server (Jack\Pulseaudio replacement) works great
  • Wayland window server is not there yet, especially if you have Nvidia with proprietary drivers and want to use VR. Waking up, session restoration and other scenarios have issues. Use X11.
  • Wine is great!
  • Music making - Bitwig Studio DAW has linux native version, yabridge allow you to use windows VSTs, which are easily installed via wine
  • Gaming works out of the box with Steam for majority of titles, some games have native linux version. Performance is great. In worst case windows game might loose 5-15% in performance. Was not case for my titles
  • Gaming outside steam is fine too. Use Wine, Lutris, Proton
  • VR is a mixed bag. Not everything is there (Desktop view, sound control and mirroring, camera, motions smooth, lighthouses do not wake up os go to sleep. I use my phone to turn them on/off). But if its not the problem for you, quite some titles work. Tried: native HF Alyx, Lab, windows: Beat Saber and Boneworks. For me it's a surprise, I did not count on it. Performance is great.

So overall my experience is great. Eventually I'm going to get rid of WIndows on other computers and laptops at howe. I can finally wave goodbye to Windows, with lots of ads and bloatware. Alway glad to help with answers regarding installation while my memory and history logs are fresh. ^^

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[–] shym3q@programming.dev 30 points 10 months ago (3 children)

don't recommend manjaro. instead - vanilla arch or endeavour os

[–] Oolee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

Noob question here. Why so many ppl is against Manjaro? As someone who just tried many distros , Manjaro was the one that just worked for me without errors, untill I was bored to try something else.

[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 19 points 10 months ago

I think it's mostly do with the carelessness of the devs. They've let their certificates expire multiple times (and suggested their users put their clocks back as a workaround) and DDOSed the AUR a couple of times by accident. To be fair, I haven't heard of any foul ups in a long time so maybe they're being more careful now.

[–] d_k_bo@feddit.de 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

https://manjarno.pages.dev/ (kinda ironic that the original manjarno site is dead)

[–] exu@feditown.com 10 points 10 months ago

Also https://dont-ship.it/ for Linux mobile where Manjaro shipped broken WIP pull requests

[–] Suspicious@lemmy.wtf 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

TLDR: poor project management & bad security and stability even though it specifically promotes itself as stable. Here's a video I think explains it pretty well https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5KNK3e9ScPo&pp=ygURbWFuamFybyBsaW51eCBiYWQ%3D

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[–] SeeJayEmm@lemmy.procrastinati.org 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I also would like to know.

[–] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

See my other reply - delays for testing lead to versioning problems with the aur.

[–] CloverSi@lemmy.comfysnug.space 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The biggest reason is instability - packages in its main repo are held back two weeks, while the same isn't true of anything from the AUR, meaning potential dependency version mismatch. It's kinda rare for this to be an issue, but it happens enough to make it a subpar choice for long-term usage. More info here

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Do they literally just delay everything by a week or make weekly "releases"? Both don't make anything more stable. I'm confused what their goal is. The weekly "releases" would at least seem like a good idea but you're just as well risking being stuck with a bug for a week.

[–] CloverSi@lemmy.comfysnug.space 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think everything's delayed, rather than weekly releases, but I'm not 100% sure. Either way, in theory this gives them more time to catch any major bugs and hold those packages, though in practice I don't believe that happens much at all considering how short the delay is.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah, I'd imagine that Arch devs are quicker to fix things because they'd affect everyone than Manjaro devs would be to notice and stop something. I imagine there are more Arch devs. I don't know though.

[–] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago

I used manjaro for a while, and it just worked out of the box. The problem is with the AUR. Manjaro is always a little bit behind the aur, and this leads to breakages because a package needs a dependency version that isn’t available. It’s like doing partial upgrades which arch is clear about: don’t do it. The other thing is that this delay is for testing, but there’s been questions raised if manjaro really does the testing justice.

If you stay away from the aur and use flatpaks, manjaro won’t have issues generally speaking. But now there’s an alternative in endeavor-it’s got a nice installer and dumps you into an arch+ environment. Me personally I didn’t find arch difficult to install, so I just went that route.

[–] Oikio@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

I hope people will take my post with a grain of salt and do their own research anyway.

[–] darcy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

i love endevouros. great for beginners. simple transition from DEs, too, for noobs