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[–] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I worked in food service and retail for a long time, not tipped. The idea that I have to leave a tip for putting my stuff in a bag and handing it to me is ludicrous to me. Employers can pay less because they can tell new hires they get tips.

Business owners need to pay their damn employees and stop using the registers to beg customers for more money.

[–] beyondthegrave@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Business owners need to pay their damn employees and stop using the registers to beg customers for more money.

And how exactly are you getting that message across by stiffing your fellow workers? Business owner makes the same money regardless.

I always tip. Not because the service was good or whatever. No one should have to earn a living being a circus monkey. Everyone deserves dignity at work. And everyone deserves a living wage.

By not supporting the worker, you're playing into the game set up ny business owners and CEOs which is to foster an environment of in-fighting of the working class so they can continue to hoard wealth they don't need.

So yeah, I'll always tip and then I give grief to the owner to pay their employees as you say. Because it's them who sets up that worker-on-worker fight club because that's where the grief needs to go. Not the person trying to live on meager wages and deal with shitty customers.

[–] Shush@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So yeah, I'll always tip and then I give grief to the owner to pay their employees as you say

Why would they pay their employees, if you are doing exactly what they want you? You always tip, so they always don't have to pay it out of their own pockets.

I'm sure the owners keep saying "yes I'm so sorry I'll consider it" and once they're out of your sight they grin and think of it not a second more.

[–] beyondthegrave@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because giving grief to the workers doesn't trickle up to the owners. They make the same money regardless.

You can give shit to the owners while making sure workers make a living wage. These things are not related.

If you don't want to tip, then don't tip. But still give grief to the owners. If everyone shit on the owners as much as the staff things would change.

[–] Shush@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

I can guarantee you that giving grief to the owners does nothing at all and changes nothing.

You cannot hope that people telling owners "this is bad I don't like it at all" while still paying will change anything. It's not how the world works.

[–] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And this, folks, is why tipping culture continues to get worse.

[–] beyondthegrave@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Tipping culture" is a very reductive way to describe a living wage, but sure. Go you.

Tipping culture and living wage are not the same thing at all. It's the owner's responsibility to pay a living wage.

Plenty of places, even in retail and food service, pay a living wage without resorting to using the registers to beg.