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[-] _number8_@lemmy.world 67 points 9 months ago

yeah anytime i see anyone talking about some little change they made in their lives to be more eco friendly it makes me incredibly, deeply sad. especially if it's at more expense or more effort for them -- they're trying their best but it's literally completely pointless

[-] artaxthehappyhorse@lemmy.ml 54 points 9 months ago

Many of us do it for sport tbh. A healthier way to gamify life sorta. I've been vegan since 2015/16 and it does increase the difficulty setting somewhat, but also it's unlocked a million fun mini games for me along the way and provided much needed community.

[-] KeisukeTakatou@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

I wish I could cope as good as you. Is going vegan the answer?

[-] Chreutz@lemmy.world 34 points 9 months ago

Reducing your meat consumption is likely the most effective way of lowering your personal climate 'footprint'.

You don't even have to go fully vegan. Use 20%, 30% or 50% less meat and you're already doing a lot.

Also look up climate impact of different types of food (and where it comes from), and use that to prioritize. Chicken, fish and pork are up to 10 times less impactful than beef.

[-] GnothiSeauton@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Reducing your meat consumption is likely the most effective way of lowering your personal climate ‘footprint’.

I hear this a lot, but I think the context of what other actions are available and their relative impact is important in this kind of discussion.

Of course, this is all with the knowledge that trying to put the onus of fixing climate change on the individual is both doomed to fail and a great burden for many. Climate change can only be properly addressed by top-down action, which we should all advocate for.

[-] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

What's the difference between "Switch electric car to car free" and "Live car free"? The latter presumes a petrol car?

How would "kill yourself" rate on this chart? Depends on how old you are, I suppose.

[-] owatnext@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

7/11 isn't bad.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Too bad they crammed hard malthusianism at the end of the graph.

[-] gizmonicus@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago

Vegans really need to embrace this strategy. Reduce meat consumption is a much easier sell to the majority of the world, and it would open them up to the idea that vegetables can make a complete meal.

Too many vegans I know try to get you to buy into their lifestyle from the start. Bruh, I'm an American and I can tell you from personal experience that most Americans, especially down here in the south, do not consider something a meal unless it has meat in it. You are not going to convince these people to stop eating burgers straight up. This is a cultural thing that isn't going to be easy to change. Going full vegan is a deal breaker. Cutting back on meat for your personal health might just gain some traction.

[-] Sheeple@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You don't even have to go vegan. You can just go vegetarian.

It's also extremely effective. Seems like people just forget it exists.

I'm vegetarian mostly to save money but if someone gifts me meat? I won't be wasting it.

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago
[-] Sheeple@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

People who know nothing about beekeeping and the fact that it is important to preserving the endangered species that are bees:

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

I have been told by many vegans that honey and sugar are not allowed, as they are both animal products. Apparently sugar is refined by using cattle bones. They told me you can use agave nectar instead.

[-] Sheeple@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Honey is fine honestly. Only miseducated people would be against the use of honey as honey harvesting causes 0 damage to the hive and beekeeping actually helps save bee populations. The alternative is not helping the bees, which are already endangered.

On sugar I agree though. Sugar can come from many sources and generally you wanna cut out sugar anyway since it's not healthy.

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