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[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

The time to end fossil fuel use is 3 decades ago. The second best time is right now, not years from now.

[-] jsdz@lemmy.ml 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Ending fossil fuel use by the year 2030 is as "right now" as it is possible to get. It would require big changes starting immediately. No more petrol cars being sold, as of right now. Massive investment in freight transport by electrified rail, start building as soon as possible. Huge transformation of agriculture, you've got to replace or adapt every single fossil-fuel powered thing. Aviation, you won't have time to save much of it if the goal is 2030, so you're going do a lot less flying. The military is going to need a complete overhaul. Commercial and recreational watercraft will all urgently need to find new ways to operate. France goes through something like 40 billion cubic metres of natural gas per year for a variety of residential, commercial, and industrial uses all of which will need to find new energy sources or be discontinued.

Doing it in less than ten years starting from the very little that's been done so far would be a world-changing accomplishment if they managed it.

The aim, he added, was to reduce this dependence from 60% to 40% by 2030.

Oh right, apparently they're only looking to reduce its market share by a third, not "end" it. That is... somewhat less impressive.

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

It should be a world changing event. We should be all hands on deck right trying to solve this issue. Instead, most everyone is worried about the economy. Always reminds me of the dinosaur meme when the asteroid hits the earth. One of them says, oh shit, the economy. Really points to the absurdity of worrying about the economy when a liveable planet is at stake.

[-] fr0g@feddit.de 8 points 9 months ago

Damn Macron couldn't even be bothered to invent a time machine. 😡

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Every climate action plan I've seen is always 10-20 years away. Climate change is clearly getting worse every year. This summer was the worst on record for heat waves all across the world, and we still aren't getting the message. It's honestly beyond idiotic that we aren't taking it seriously.

[-] fr0g@feddit.de 8 points 9 months ago

Yeah, it still seems a weird place to complain about it when this is actually a measure of moving the goalposts closer (2030 is certainly less than 10-20 years,) while other industrial nations like the UK and Germany are even backsliding.

I think it's totally fair to criticize that it isn't enough, because it isn't. I just don't see how engaging in hyperbolic scenarios and defeatism is supposed to help anything. I think it's also okay to acknowledge when something is at least moving in a slightly less shit direction and use that as a source of encouragment to turn things around further, instead of just saying "well, this is shit".

[-] Sodis@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago

Germany is not backsliding. They won't reach their climate goals, but they reduced the gap in reaching these goals significantly compared to the prior Merkel led government.

[-] fr0g@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

So what would you call the backpedalling on the laws on new heaters and energy efficiency of new buildings then? Or the abolishment if sector goals?

[-] Sodis@feddit.de 2 points 9 months ago

Not backpedalling. The law on heating is still an improvement to prior regulation and the climate law, that enforces being carbon neutral in 2045, still stands. There will probably be another round of lawsuits soon forcing the government to sharpen their ambitions.

[-] fr0g@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

Yes, it's an improvement to prior regulation and a step back from what they initially set out to do.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

It's ok to not accept a liberal politicians half assed attempt at stopping climate change. It's insufficient plain as day.

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