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Linus Torvalds Comments on ARM: Did he lose touch with reality? (www.realworldtech.com)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by TCB13@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.ml

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tr:dr; he says "x86 took over the server market" because it was the same architecture developers in companies had on their machines thus it made it very easy to develop applications on their machines to then ship to the servers.

Now this, among others he made, are very good points on how and why it is hard for ARM to get mainstream on the datacenter, however I also feel like he kind lost touch with reality on this one...

He's comparing two very different situations, more specifically eras. Developers aren't so tied anymore like they used to be to the underlaying hardware. The software development market evolved from C to very high language languages such as Javascript/Typescript and the majority of stuff developed is done or will be done in those languages thus the CPU architecture becomes irrelevant.

Obviously very big companies such as Google, Microsoft and Amazon are more than happy to pay the little "tax" to ensure Javascript runs fine on ARM than to pay the big bucks they pay for x86..

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[–] DeprecatedCompatV2@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I hate my M2 Mac because I hate Macs and Docker doesn't always work correctly.

[–] dot20@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

hates Macs

buys M2 Mac

[–] DeprecatedCompatV2@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Have job

Get paid to suffer

[–] kornel@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you run an ARM system inside docker, it works much better!

Many pre-baked images may be x86 only. However, thanks to M processors there’s a real demand for more than Raspberry Pi, so this will get better too.

[–] DeprecatedCompatV2@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately I was trying to build WebRTC, which is supported on Linux only.

[–] kornel@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There’s aarch64 version of Linux.

[–] DeprecatedCompatV2@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Not all the dependencies are supported on aarch64 unfortunately.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'd be surprised if Docker worked at all on an M2, because it doesn't work worth a shit on an x86 Mac.