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Don’t give 2 week notices. The only incentive you have is if you are leaving on good terms you can use them as a reference or maybe come back if the circumstances work.
The downsides far outweigh the benefits. They could terminate you, cut your hours, get mad that you’re quitting and give you bad references.
I think is different in different markets, in my actual job, during the interview I said that I would need a month I'm advance to give to my old boss, to close projects and prepare my junior for my leave. After being accepted my new boss told me that this stipulation weighted a lot in the decision to hired me, because they knew I would do the same. I'm an actuarie, our jobs are kinda complex, and someone leaving the company without any notice can complicate everything a lot.
I was pretty high up in Actuarial at a fortune 500 insurance company. At my old company, if you went to a competitor, your account was shut off that day and none of your unused time off was paid out.
You don't owe your company anything they won't reciprocate. The company will continue to operate no matter who leaves under whatever circumstances - don't fuck yourself for a faceless corporation.
If you know your manager is very employee-centric and you have a great relationship, maybe approach it with caution, but otherwise, your interests should always come first.
This is what I mean, in Brazil if they do that they have to pay a lot of money, I guess in other parts of the world with basic workers law works like that.
This is the way to do it - also, it's nice to have some vacation stocked away in case they do get mad and fire you before the end of the 2 weeks. If you don't get fired, it's like getting a bonus check once you start your new job.
Getting fire is the best case, almost everywhere but in the US. In Brazil every month the employer have to deposit 8% of your salary in a savings account that pays 3% interest rates annually. If you are fired without legitimate cause, they have to pay 45% of the value of that account to you, and you are free to liquidate that account. Government bonds today are paying way eay more, so you can just buy bonds and get a 400% value on the long term.
I don't get it. If you get a notice, they should. We have labour laws requiring both the company and you to give notice, 3 months. That's for anyone that hires someone, but exempt for what's called a "temporary hire", like interns and such. If you have a temporary hire for more than one year it's automatically considered a "permanent hire". It means that whenever a company uses consultants or practice workers the risk goes both ways, and most normal workers get economic security. (Perhaps it only works well because other labour laws though, such as rights to be sick, have kids, etc)
Labour laws should be beneficial for workers, and if they aren't, the giant hyper capitalist megacorps you foster with that approach aren't worth any protection at all since they are a burden on the planet and society, not a benefit.
You don't typically get a notice.
What you just described is a system that mistreats your workers. Those temporary hires, if they lose their jobs, they can't put food on the table. But if the company loses a temporary worker, it's not going to be troubled, they're just going to go hire another person.
That all being said, if you're working under contract and your company has robust protections for retaliation by employers, some of the risk of telling them in advance goes away. That's great, but there's still some remaining risk. Many bosses will be vengeful, bitter, and they may sabotage your work however they can for the last few weeks or months. And you won't be able to stop them, because you're leaving, so even if you filed an internal complaint, it wouldn't go anywhere.
fuck the reference.. tell your new boss your current job doesn't know you're job hunting and thus can't list them as a reference.. problem solved!
Agree but with caution, I know a couple hiring managers who pull the "oh if they'll job hunt on their current one they will do it to us" kinda clingy relationship shit.
Bitch, it's a job, we're not friends. HR isn't there to help you, your manager isn't there to help you, and in all except the rarest cases the founder or manager doesn't give a shit about you.
I work in a professional environment where it's not unusual to give months notice because you appreciate the people you work with and don't want to leave them hanging.
in this same environment I have witnessed people getting fired on the spot with zero notice, zero reasons, zero sympathy. I have also seen people give a month notice only for mgmt and HR to fire them on the spot and then tell their team the person quit.
take my advice, don't give a two weeks notice for your employer. give it to your trusted colleagues and quit on the spot for your employer.