cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/65824884
Hey everyone
We’re really sorry to say this, but lemm.ee will be shutting down on June 30, 2025.
What you need to know
As of now:
- New user registrations are disabled
- Creating new communities is disabled
What you should do:
- You can export your settings at https://lemm.ee/settings to take them with you to another instance.
- If you're moving to another instance, consider adding a note to your lemm.ee profile with your new username. Your old profile will still be visible from other instances even after we go offline.
- Alternatively, if you want to delete your lemm.ee profile, now is the best time to do it, so the deletion can federate out before we go offline.
- If you're one of the folks supporting us with a recurring donation, please remember to cancel it (Ko-Fi donations should have been cancelled automatically already). Our leftover funds are already enough to cover our bills for next month, so we can keep things running without any more support.
Because of how Lemmy is built, everything posted on lemm.ee will still be accessible from other instances, even after we go offline.
Why this is happening
The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.
The sad reality is that while there are a lot of great people on Lemmy, there are also some who use the platform to attack others, stir up conflict, or actively try to undermine the project. Admins are volunteers who deal with the latter group on a constant basis, this takes a mental toll. Please understand why our admins chose to step down, and be kind to the admins on whatever instance you decide to join.
We know this sucks. We're genuinely sorry it’s ending like this. Thank you to everyone who spent time here and helped make it better.
– lemm.ee team
Forgive me, I’m still not sure what this means. Is this site just dead at the end of the month?
You are a lemme.ee user, so you will need to find another instance (it's like a server) if you want to keep using Lemmy - and I hope you do!
https://join-lemmy.org/ has a listing of instances, though I'm sure others will hop in here and recommend some.
Edit: This comment describes how to migrate your subscriptions, blocks, and saved posts
Is there a basic rundown on the different Lemmy Servers eg I have heard negative things about Hexbear etc?
Lemmy.world -- biggest, defaultest instance. All the pros and cons associated with that
Lemmy.ml -- very authoritarian leftist instance. Has a tankie problem but also has cool communists. Has heavy censorship
Lemmy.blahaj.zone -- trans focused, very queer, authoritarian by nature of being a trans safe space. Generally chiller but contradictorily also the center of a lot of drama, because people love to hate trans safe apaces.
dbzero -- don't remember the actual domain, run by dbZ. Anarchist democracy instance, very cool and chill, it's what I'd sign up on if I started afresh
sh.itjust.works -- tbh don't know much about them but pretty straightforward, is what the label aays, it just works
Hexbear -- wver wanted to see a aerver that unironically loves the chinese communist party and thinks north korea is aspirational? There you go
pawb.social -- I think this might be am mbin instance instead of a lemmy instance but I'm not sure. Can be summarized as " the furry one"
lemmynsfw -- the porn one. Most instances are defederated feom it
Those are the ones foremost in my mind. Tons of small European ones that are focused on specific countries too. I anticipate replies giving me shit for uttering the word "tankie".
I wouldn't describe it as authoritarian. That implies unjust use of authority. Their harshness towards transphobes is justified and necessary, because transphobes are an existential threat towards trans people, and queer people as a whole. It's not authoritarian, it's protective.
I think I know why authoritarian has different connotations, specifically not inherently negative to me--stellaris! When setting up your civilization in stellaris, there are several... factors? you can base them on, each one has an opposite. Materialist vs spiritualist, militarist vs pacifist, xenophobe vs xenophile, and authoritarian vs egalitarian. I'm used to the word in the context of a descriptive spectrum, not inherently good or bad. (Usually bad in the context of irl stuff, that just doesn't seem to be where my mind goes first) Just thought you might find it neat
Mood, we're on the same page the word authoritarian just has a bit different meaning to me
See my comment here
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/26961264/14719771
Thanks this is exactly what I need.
dbzero hates crypto for some reason and I don’t believe admins should voice their opinion in this way
Why not? Not every instance has to be neutral on all points.
Do go on, you are just making dbzero seem like a cooler place.
can you explain a little bit more on why you think lemmy.blahaj.zone is authoritarian please?
I think they just mean that it's heavily moderated and principled. Which is fine and kind of the point.
Yep exactly pretty much
Sure. Transphobia is straight up not tolerated at all. There is zero room for discussion. It's not something a community on bz can allow, it's ada's mission statement that bz is a safe space for trans people, end of story. That's why I love it and use it. I wouldn't call it censorship heavy, at least not in the aame way ml and the like are. You can criticize and bitch about ada and her actions as much as you want, you won't get silenced. However, I'd still absolutely place it on the authoritarian end of the spectrum compared to a place like dbzero. I call it authoritarian but it's not a negative thing, it's why I use it. It's it done right. Idk maybe I have different connotations for the instance and for the word authoritarian than you/most people, I hope this clears up what I mean
They have a pro-monarchy community (shera), which isn't great.
If you don’t have extremely strict rules about gender or transgender discrimination or speech in general, then they want to fight you like you’re doing a genocide.
It doesn’t sound bad in practice but in reality, you get trashtalked for not understanding their vocabulary or not agreeing with them. Respectful debates aren’t possible because they don’t respect any other opinion than theirs.
It’s just a big echo chamber and Ada is a clown avid of power that loves to threaten others with her powers. That’s just my opinion though.
I'm sick of respectful debates about my right to exist. That's what blahaj zone is for, and it does it well.
I agree, I'm sick of this too. These types of debates are shitty and trying to honor them or play along doesn't do anyone any favors.
Yeah. Before I started using lemmy and matrix more I was on discord a lot, and some of the mods there are rather shitty I have to say. Many even think they are allies despite allowing and defending all sorts of transphobic rhetoric like AGP etc.
Blåhaj has been such a relief in that sense. The only instance I know for sure has my back 100%. No "allies" telling me what is and is not transphobic
"Right to exist" is a very manipulative way of qualifying trans debates. Most of them go way beyond that, like the questions of athletes, or whether it makes more sense or not to restrict by sex or by gender, and the distinction between the 2.
I view you as the tankies of gender, really. Not all of you sure, but there sure are a lot
I view you as the cryptobro of cryptobros. And there aint any nice cryptobros.
I'm not. I actually use them instead of asking everyone to invest into them, because fuck banks
if you disagree with the folks on lammy.blahaj.zone, good chance your a bigot anyways, so your not welcome, and good riddance too. you don't get to debate our right to exist.
I'm not in that community but that sounds like transphobia to me if you don't believe in certain parts of being a trans person.
Yet you choose to use deliberately dehumanizing language to describe us... Interesting.
Remember kids, when people hate on Blahaj and other Trans safe spaces, there is always a deeper reason. It's either lack of understanding of the trans experience, or outright bigotry and disdain for those who protect trans and queer people.
There are plenty of respectful debates about trans issues, and tolerance of people genuinely not understanding queer topics. What cannot be debated respectfully is whatever or not to respect a person"s identity. No amount of polite language can make such a conversation respectful, as you're refusing to do the bare minimum required to speak to that person as an equal.
Creating a tolerant space requires not tolerating intolerance. This is not an authoritarian insight, but one centered on maximizing the freedom of everyone. If you demand a space where you can debate a basic fact about myself, then that is not a space in which I am free.
That's what's you think is going on, but that's not the case. You jump to conclusions and say that everyone not agreeing with you is a bigot, or should act like they know nothing and trust you because you're the incontested authority. It doesn't work that way.
Again, are you respecting someone's identity? I don't care what you think you're doing; if you aren't recognizing a person as the person they are, then the conclusion is that you're mistreating someone. The world isn't a place where your self perceptions overwrite the person you actually are.
I would just look for an instance that doesn’t prioritize propaganda buzzwords like “freedom”
hexbear is ultra-left wing so you might see the same type of arguments/comment styles right wingers use, .ml is pretty similar. super political users.
Neat, thank you!
Not this specific site, but another instance of lemmy. I think.