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[–] Binthinkin@kbin.social 57 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (8 children)

If you have daughters please train them in self defense. Best to train it young and encourage it as a hobby into adulthood. It’s better than weapons and more effective. Breaking an assailant’s arm comes with way less PTSD than shooting someone.

Edit: I am a fan of living a self reliant life. It’s a very wholesome and well rounded way to live. Carl Sagan promoted it and it is a solid way to actually live free rather than under the falsities of the self proclaimed “main stream” portion of society. Self Defense is a major part of that. Self defense also does not mean being a master of it, just enough to get away safely.

Edit2: Yea this post isn’t victim blaming. There are many benefits to self defense including confidence building. You are literally empowering your kids. Idk why people don’t like doing that except to control them. Again, teaching self defense isn’t teaching violence. If you don’t know the difference it would be enlightening to discover it.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't disagree but I think it's a lot easier for me to teach my son not to be a rapist. At 7 he understands boundaries. It's not hard.

[–] MrLuemasG@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Yeah... too bad you can't teach other people's sons not to be rapists - they're the ones you've gotta worry about

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Better yet we do both. Hell we should also be spreading awareness and providing programs to help support people to prevent and recover from incidents like this. It's a complex social issue so it should be tackled from all directions simultaneously

[–] MrLuemasG@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Completely agreed. I don't think anybody is out here saying "teach people to defend themselves but don't even bother trying to teach people not to assault others"

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Let's also not forget that a certain percentage of people are simply fucked up beyond repair, no matter how they are raised.

So teaching women basic self defense is absolutely the way to go.

I want to live in a world, where this piece of shit tries to rape someone and ends up with a broken nose, arm and exploded nutsack.

[–] girlfreddy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

How about instead we train boys that they do not own women, nor do they have a right to demand women obey them.

Teach your children well.

[–] Fraylor@lemm.ee 33 points 9 months ago (15 children)

Both. Both is an option because you can't train the monster out of some people.

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[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Because we can’t train other people’s kids- but we can train our own.

[–] girlfreddy@sh.itjust.works -4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Exactly. So parents should train their sons to not be rapey manipulative violent assholes.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Wrap it up everyone, we've stopped rapists by...

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being condescending about it on the internet

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago

But you can’t guarantee they’re doing it- so train your daughter to kick some ass.

And for the record, I was never trained to not be a rapey manipulative asshole, and I’m none of those things, so let’s stop with the blanket statements.

[–] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Okay. But also, if you have a son teach them that women are not objects that owe them sex if they follow some script in their head.

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

I agree with this, but I also think it would be a good idea to teach them how to defend themselves with weapons as well. There are certain situations where legally it will be less of a problem for you if you just kill the threat. You don't want to end up paying your would-be rapists medical bills over some dumb technicality.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

Imagine the pathetic life of the two people that downvoted this comment.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

My daughter has been learning defense since she was 8, went through different classes including MMA. She's such a sweet kid and runs away from danger, but she's got enough to fight with if it ever comes to it. Still wish I could follow her around looking mean everywhere she goes. But if a guy ever did this to her, I would deal with him myself.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

A good self defense class teaches people to run first and fight only when you're cornered, so she's learning the right lesson.

[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago

This is unrealistic victim-blaming.

Teach your sons to control themselves and your daughters to go hard for the balls.