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I feel like its a bad idea for people to buy these. I mean... the screen are weak plastics that can get damaged by a fingernail. Seems like an expensive buy for such a terrible durability. A terrible deal in my opinion.

What even is the use-case for these, anyways?

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[–] shaggyb@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've got one. Moto Razr.

It fits in my pocket much better than a slab phone.

I don't use the outer screen much. Generally when I need to fumble around and change media or unlock my car or something with stuff in my other hand. But Moto's implementation of the second screen is pretty good.

I like a very large screen and I like portability. If this phone breaks, I'll probably get either another one like it or a larger one like a Pixel Fold or something.

The solution to the fragile inner screen is - and I know this is a complex idea so bear with me - you close the phone when you're not actively using it. Seriously, it's a complete non-issue.

My biggest complaint is the Moto software. I've had other Moto phones before and had similar issues - they're WAY too aggressive with battery optimizations killing background apps. Like holy shit. I have to go in every few days and reset settings that the phone changed on its own so that my VPN stays connected for more than 10 minutes at a time because it wants to kill the app to save battery. But that has nothing to do with the screen.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Z Flip user here! I've been loving this phone. I've had a Z Flip since I think maybe 2022 now? Anyway, still enjoying the thing. Main reason I got it was the same reason you did... pocketability.

Modern smartphones are just so ridiculously huge that they don't fit in the ridiculously small women's pants pockets. I love that I can actually bring a modern smartphone everywhere without needing a purse or bag. Bonus is that it's also just fun to open and close it... especially when hanging up calls lol.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have a Galaxy Z Flip 3 (fuckin' naming schemes) and have been listing after the Razr. I think it looks spectacular, and at least on my generation of devices, the external screen can only run special apps compiled with a Samsung API. The external screen is useless, but from what I read the Razr runs just any app. The bloatware can't be anywhere near as bad as what Samsung does.

Why don't you use the external screen more? It's almost half-size a normal screen, right?

[–] shaggyb@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I think the main reason I don't use the outer screen more is just that if I'm on my phone I'm generally stationary and can open it up without sacrificing convenience. It's like, 75% open, 25% use the outer screen in general. I also have a Pixel watch for like, at-a-glance notifications.

Completely agree that there is ZERO point to the outer screen if you can't use any app you choose. Here is my outer home screen:

(Yes, I own a Tesla. No, I'm not a Nazi. I bought it in April 2024 used and owe more than I'd get on a trade. Yes I know there are incentives right now. No they won't make a difference. No, you don't know my finances. No, I'm not going to discuss it any more.)

And yes, Pokemon Go works on the outer screen... Kind of. It's hard to hit the buttons. Throwing balls though, just fine. The more I think about it, being on foot or on a bike is the perfect situation for pretty much all of what the outer screen can do.

The main screen, though - fantastic. I love the Moto UI for Android. I like a small text size and lots of icons.

Mine is the 2024 base version. The plus or ultra or what the fuck ever just has a slightly bigger outer screen and... Idfk what else but I haven't felt the need for more. Quite happy.

I replaced 2 Pixels in a row which both died in less than a year with this. Better battery life, thermals, and UI than the Pixel. Camera is acceptable, but Pixel is the king there. I have a Pixel 6a which is a burner/camera when I want real photography. Quite happy.