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[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Do you not know what "due process" is, then?

The government checking a database for records and ensuring those are correct and in line with the information the accused has (via a judicial body), IS DUE PROCESS.

What are the chances? This isn't the fucking casino, it's people's legal rights, which are also YOUR legal rights, and they are proved by evidence, not odds.

Not giving someone due process, means they don't have to look at those government documents (and they haven't been in several cases and admitted it). That means YOU, they can refuse to look at your ID or say it is fake, refuse to let you prove it in court- THAT'S DUE PROCESS

NONE of this, and I can't emphasize this enough, is about these people's actual legal citizenship status or not, so your first two points are mind-numbingly bad. Whether you get your day in court is how we determine ANYTHING in this country so we MUST grant it, or else they own your body and self and can just kidnap you anywhere, literally.

You're a fucking idiot.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The government checking a database for records and ensuring those are correct and in line with the information the accused has (via a judicial body), IS DUE PROCESS.

Okay, so when ICE goes to arrest people for whom they have no immigration records, they've already done their due process then, haven't they. Glad we agree here.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, that's NOT due process.

Just admit you don't know the phrase.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You just said that it was. I literally quoted you.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No, you didn't.

Okay, so when ICE goes to arrest people for whom they have no immigration records, they’ve already done their due process then, haven’t they.

That's not what due process is. Please, get lead chelation therapy asap

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Show me where I misquoted you.

I've already thoroughly explained. It's not due process to "check in the database ahead of time" for citizenship status. That's not what due process is or how it works. They can just CLAIM they did that for everyone, including you, and then you have NO RECOURSE to fix it or change it (THAT'S due process....!)