Communism is a post-Socialist society, it must be global, highly developed, and have full public ownership, or close enough to those. The Soviet Union was, instead, Socialist, ie an economy where public ownership is the principle aspect. That being said, there were attempts at Cybernetics, and moving beyond money. These are actually incredibly interesting, and anyone interested in Socialism should look into those attempts.

If you want to learn more about Socialism and Communism, I recommend checking out my introductory Marxist-Leninist reading list.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There is also the great Documentary by Plastic Pills Project Cybersyn & The CIA Coup in Chile

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh shit, I need to watch that! Thanks, comrade!

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's great, it goes further into how post coup the nascent proto-neolib ghouls went down to examine cybersyn and essentially stole the whole idea behind it which eventually became the model for just in time supply chains at places like amazon and walmart. Oh what could have been.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Interesting, and heartbreaking, of course. I never knew about the link to JIT from Cybersyn, I'll have to give that a watch. Thanks!

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I mean that stuff wouldn't emerge for the next couple decades, but you can certainly see where the capitalist vampires saw it and went "damn that looks real efficient, bet if we made a privatized version we'd make more money than god".

Of course as we know it was only so efficient because of its socialized nature which made such supply chains less prone to disruption as the computational power could be used to centrally monitor supply chains between all sorts of different nationalized industries, that could then be allocated in an agile manor so as to minimize any one industry or population running out of materials or basic needs. It was so efficient materials could even be reallocated mid route. It was a really sophisticated system and could serve as a blueprint for large scale socialized economies.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

Absolutely! It's kinda surreal seeing Marx get vindicated, he predicted markets would eventually develop these kinds of technologies in order to deal with ever-increasing complexity in production.

[–] carrion0409@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Marx mentioned

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

I do be mentioning Marx