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[–] Trees@lemm.ee 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

With flattery he will corrupt those who have violated the covenant, but the people who know their God will firmly resist him.

Daniel 11:32

He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior… He will use every kind of evil deception to fool those on their way to destruction, because they refuse to love and accept the truth that would save them.

Daniel 8:25, 2 Thess 2:10

… a despicable person will arise… a man of contempt… to whom the royal honor has not been rightfully conferred. He will slip in when least expected and will seize the kingdom through flattery and intrigue.

Daniel 11:21

After an alliance is made with him he will practice deception, and he will go up and gain power with a small force of people.

Daniel 11:23

He will try to change the set times and the laws.

Dan. 7:25

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Daniel 8 and 11 here are talking about a prophecy that has already “been fulfilled” - common in the Bible to make these kinds of retroactive prophecies. The bad guy being described there is Antiochus.

[–] igg@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

That is just Daniel 8. Daniel 11 could reasonably be talking about modern times

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Could literally be talking about billions of people from a period spanning thousands of years.

[–] Fluke@lemm.ee -1 points 3 days ago

Which is why some people still hold it up as a valuable text. It's a well written book of scams to keep the ignorant masses in line.

It is, in essence, a compilation of the vague shite that "fortune tellers" spew to the marks looking to be told what they want to hear.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Not really, from context pretty sure it’s one of those “ex post facto” prophecy things.

This is why people should read books of the Bible and not verse. Random bits out of context are used to imply so much BS.

Now then, I tell you the truth: Three more kings will arise in Persia, and then a fourth, who will be far richer than all the others. When he has gained power by his wealth, he will stir up everyone against the kingdom of Greece. Then a mighty king will arise, who will rule with great power and do as he pleases. After he has arisen, his empire will be broken up and parceled out toward the four winds of heaven. It will not go to his descendants, nor will it have the power he exercised, because his empire will be uprooted and given to others.

The king of the South will become strong, but one of his commanders will become even stronger than he and will rule his own kingdom with great power. After some years, they will become allies. The daughter of the king of the South will go to the king of the North to make an alliance, but she will not retain her power, and he and his power will not last. In those days she will be betrayed, together with her royal escort and her father[ and the one who supported her.

One from her family line will arise to take her place. He will attack the forces of the king of the North and enter his fortress; he will fight against them and be victorious. He will also seize their gods, their metal images and their valuable articles of silver and gold and carry them off to Egypt. For some years he will leave the king of the North alone. Then the king of the North will invade the realm of the king of the South but will retreat to his own country. His sons will prepare for war and assemble a great army, which will sweep on like an irresistible flood and carry the battle as far as his fortress.

None of this is connected to Revelation, which was written centuries later.