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[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 14 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Shapiro only has a B.A.
Peterson is fully qualified to talk on psychological markers for alcoholism, and a broad range of clinical psychology, and not much else.
They are both (educated) bullshit merchants, not intellectuals. Intellectuals are honest.

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Ben Shapiro has a JD. Like I said he’s educated. He’s just wrong about a lot of things

“He then attended Harvard Law School, where he studied under liberal law professors Lani Guinier and Randall Kennedy.[10][11] In 2007, Shapiro graduated from Harvard with a Juris Doctor, cum laude.[12]@

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Shapiro

[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee -2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Meh, JD is an entry-level law qualification: "in Canada, it is considered a second-entry bachelor's degree." [Wikipedia] In any case, it's a professional qualification, not an academic one.

[–] tokeholdlaunch@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

That is absolutely incorrect. A JD is a juris doctorate and is considered a postgraduate degree in the United States. There are some places where law degrees are granted at the bachelor's level, but not the US. You're making the same mistake as the Rogan crowd here by looking at a surface level, single sentence from Wikipedia (which is referring to the Canadian system btw). The law degree itself is only "entry level" because JD holders have to pass a licensure exam (the "professional qualification) before they are allowed to be practicing attorneys. There are quite a few people who have law degrees, but don't take the exam because they intend to use their law degrees in other ways.

[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Ok fair enough. I am not familiar with the American academic legal system. I do not appreciate being likened to the "Rogan crowd".
The fact about it being a professional qualification rather than an academic one stands, then, I take it?

[–] AccountMaker@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 hours ago

Exactly. Peterson taught psychology at a university (and even the quality of his lectures have been brought into question, but we'll ignore that), and that somehow makes him an authority to talk about global warming and how all climate scientists are wrong because you can't model something like that, it makes him an authority to talk about the nazis and how Hitler was actually guided by the people as he spoke only what they reacted positively to, he's also an authority on economics when he says how the famine in the Soviet Union was caused by the communists killing all the smart and disciplined farmers, etc etc.

How can anyone seriously listen to a guy who said that women who complain about sexual harassment while wearing makeup are hypocrites is beyond me.

This is nice read on the topic: https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2018/03/the-intellectual-we-deserve