this post was submitted on 11 Mar 2025
1038 points (97.0% liked)
linuxmemes
23433 readers
771 users here now
Hint: :q!
Sister communities:
Community rules (click to expand)
1. Follow the site-wide rules
- Instance-wide TOS: https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/
- Lemmy code of conduct: https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html
2. Be civil
- Understand the difference between a joke and an insult.
- Do not harrass or attack users for any reason. This includes using blanket terms, like "every user of thing".
- Don't get baited into back-and-forth insults. We are not animals.
- Leave remarks of "peasantry" to the PCMR community. If you dislike an OS/service/application, attack the thing you dislike, not the individuals who use it. Some people may not have a choice.
- Bigotry will not be tolerated.
3. Post Linux-related content
- Including Unix and BSD.
- Non-Linux content is acceptable as long as it makes a reference to Linux. For example, the poorly made mockery of
sudoin Windows. - No porn. Even if you watch it on a Linux machine.
4. No recent reposts
- Everybody uses Arch btw, can't quit Vim, <loves/tolerates/hates> systemd, and wants to interject for a moment. You can stop now.
5. π¬π§ Language/ΡΠ·ΡΠΊ/Sprache
- This is primarily an English-speaking community. π¬π§π¦πΊπΊπΈ
- Comments written in other languages are allowed.
- The substance of a post should be comprehensible for people who only speak English.
- Titles and post bodies written in other languages will be allowed, but only as long as the above rule is observed.
6. (NEW!) Regarding public figures
We all have our opinions, and certain public figures can be divisive. Keep in mind that this is a community for memes and light-hearted fun, not for airing grievances or leveling accusations. - Keep discussions polite and free of disparagement.
- We are never in possession of all of the facts. Defamatory comments will not be tolerated.
- Discussions that get too heated will be locked and offending comments removed. Β
Please report posts and comments that break these rules!
Important: never execute code or follow advice that you don't understand or can't verify, especially here. The word of the day is credibility. This is a meme community -- even the most helpful comments might just be shitposts that can damage your system. Be aware, be smart, don't remove France.
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Why would you? Sleep uses so little power and the resume is instant.
If it wasnβt for S0 standby being such a piece of shit Iβd never shutdown my computer unless it was for an update or hardware maintenance.
Have you seen how fast computers turn on these days (from complete shutdowns)? It's 2-3 seconds (if hibernation is completely off). Barely an inconvenience - specially not one worth risking the pc turning on by itself on random times.
I mean since the advent of SSDs I've not found the boot times of computers to be all that slow and I typically quite like coming back to a clean desktop on a new day rather than having junk from yesterday being thrown at me.
Even if the boot time is fast, you lose a lot of the program states. Not only it takes extra time to load those applications, it's also a fair amount of effort to put everything back where it should be.
If it was necessary to shut computers down, no problem, it's not too much time and effort. But there's normally no need to shut computers down, it's just wasted time with no benefits (usually).
yeah if ur working on something you should sleep the computer, but if you're working with, like, one app, or if youre not working on anything, i see no reason not to shutdown ur pc
Even if it's only one app, what is the purpose? To save on electricity that powers RAM?
sure? i could bring the same argument back to you:
why wouldn't you shut it down? so that you can wait a couple of seconds less?
there's basically no difference. it only depends on what you're used to doing and maybe if you care about the little electricity that's being used constantly for little to no reason
But you can't bring the same argument back to me. Cold booting requires more time and effort. Thus to make that argument, one needs to provide the benefits that compensate for the downsides. Some people provided possible benefits that matter to their specific case, like, PSU makes noise (actually, that was you in a different thread), or they want to save laptop battery, etc. But if we are taking about a modern stationary computer with mains power, there's practically no benefit to shutting it down, only downsides.
Of course it's completely valid for somebody to do it out of habit, but they can't expect to use that as a valid argument for others to do it.
the more time and effort is like, literally a couple of seconds for most pcs, unless it has a hard drive
for now i kind of have to turn my pc off all the time because the roof has a couple of leaks right on top of where my stuff is and it could rain at any time. when i move i'll probably keep turning it off though, as i always turn it on and go and get something to eat, so boot time makes no difference, and i just personally hate it when it turns on from any key press
It's definitely not just a couple of seconds, unless you have a very lightweight OS and only 1 or 2 apps to work with. And no matter how little extra time it takes to cold boot the system, there's still no benefit to doing it that way, so no matter how little that time is, it's still wasted.
As I mentioned, one is free to use their computer however they wish, but it doesn't make it not wasteful to shut it down. If grabbing something to eat was part of my daily routine, I'd grab it beforehand, instead of needlessly going back and forth, wake the computer and use it immediately.
Well yes why not save that battery power
I was mostly talking about stationary computers, but even in case of a laptop (unless it runs Windows which has terrible sleep management) the benefits of starting your work immediately once you open the lid outweighs the cons of losing a couple percent of battery overnight.
Why would you loose that couple percent of battery if boot time is fast and only have two apps for the work
Firstly, I normally have way more than two apps open. And secondly, in case of a few apps, I personally still value the couple minutes of my time more than I do 2% of my battery. But to each their own.
Make it quiet so I can go to sleep
But a sleeping computer is just as quiet as a shut down computer... Which is totally silent. I don't get it.
If you have a watercooled system getting less hours on the pump is always good, especially with a cheaper AIO. Also not all pumps are completely quiet when in sleep
I used to have a watercooled PC, I don't remember it making any sounds while in sleep. Why would the pump run when PC is asleep?
Many motherboard pump headers will still provide power while in sleep. But you usually start hearing the pump more when it's older and the bearing starts to wear, or due to permeation lowering the water levels.
i mean, i used to have an old power supply that made a pretty loud high pitched noise constantly so i had to always turn the switch to go to sleep. maybe they have something similar in the motherboard
For me the only thing I needed to "put back where it should be" was my VPN. Bu I switched to wireguard from Eddie, so now I don't need to adjust anything on startup
See I want all the junk from yesterday.
Because a laptop waking from sleep while in a bag is a fire hazard.
If S0 standby wasnβt so shit, or we could go back to old reliable S1-3 that wouldnβt be an issue.
Just like the brain computers need off-time to calm their electrons and unflip their bits.
/s but a lot of issues really are solved by a reboot